Posts by darkspilver

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

darkspilver

More coverage from today (Monday, November 20, 2017)

Jehovah’s Witness child abuse victims told ‘not to go to police’, The Times (UK), Nov 20, 2017
VICTIMS HUSHED: Children who were raped by Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘told NOT to report abuse because it would shame the church’ - The Sun (UK), Nov 20, 2017
Jehovah's Witnesses 'covered up' abuse - NewsOK (Oklahoma, US), Nov 20, 2017
Raped at the age of four, Jehovah's Witness told 'not to report' child abuse, International Business Times, Nov 20, 2017
Jehovah's Witnesses deny telling abuse victims not to call the police - Birmingham Mail (UK), Nov 20, 2017

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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

by Lostandfound in

today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

darkspilver

Following Louise Palmer's brief interview with the BBC today - highlighted in the OP - thought I'd post this.....

My parents chose my brother, my abuser, over me. I can never forgive them for betrayal

The Sunday People (Mirror Group, UK), Sunday, October 11, 2015

A woman who was raped by her brother as a child has won justice but paid the heavy price of being disowned by their parents.

Brave Louise Palmer, 38, suffered in silence for decades as her strict Jehovah’s Witness parents protected her abuser.

She was only five when 14-year-old Richard Davenport started molesting her.

He had moved into a caravan in the family’s garden because of a strained atmosphere in the house.

He would offer to take little Louise to stay with him, supposedly to shield her from domestic violence scenes, but actually as an opportunity to abuse her.

For six years Davenport, now 47, put helpless Louise through hell. He stopped only when her periods started and he feared she may get pregnant.

She told parents Trevor and Diane and church elders about the vile abuse but shockingly they did nothing for fear of bringing shame on the name of God.

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2018 Memorial and Special Talk Speculation

by SplaneThisToMe in

so we all know that the special talk titled "who really is jesus christ?

" will be given before the memorial next year which is very new.

also new this year is that the special talk will be prerecorded and given by a branch committee member rather than a brother from the local congregation.

darkspilver

Poztate: That "New Thing" will be a special contribution box at the back so for that meeting ALL revenue will be forwarded to the WTBTS

sorry, that's already happened

See the letter March 2, 2017 below - Re: Broadcast Events Held in Kingdom Halls - paragraphs 7 and 8

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5yjpir/march_2_2017_to_all_bodies_of_elders_in_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/65ehf7/march_2_2017_to_all_bodies_of_elders_in_the_us/

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JW Baptism Anullment

by Farmer Jim1 in

jw
friends

has anyone ever successfully annulled their jw baptism?

especially if they were very young when baptised?.

darkspilver

Farmer Jim1: Has anyone ever successfully annulled their JW baptism? Especially if they were very young when baptised?

Apparently yes, check the examples here...

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5732501685272576/watchtower-annulled-my-baptism

JWFacts even claims to know of three people who their baptism annulled

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/grundy.php

But then you have this......

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3ztrz8/women_calls_bethel_to_try_and_get_her_childhood/

https://youtu.be/CES0o2qh8FQ

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here is a short 2-minute video from fox 5 news reviewing the new jw hq in warwick, ny.. the first thing the jw spokesperson says is, “our primary purpose is not to convert, but to give people an opportunity to see what the bible has to say.”.

next the reporter says, “the new world headquarters, which opened last year, is home to about 800 jehovah's witnesses.”.

it seems to me that 800 is an extremely low number since the glory days in brooklyn.

darkspilver

Check out the comments here : https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7d31m6/fox_5_ny_inside_the_jehovahs_witnesses/

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WTBTS and the CCJW ?

by Crazyguy in

apparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.

since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?

i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?

darkspilver

John Davis - read the above August 12, 2011 letter, it explains the situation in Britain vis-a-vis CCJW, IBSA and WTBTSoB

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WTBTS and the CCJW ?

by Crazyguy in

apparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.

since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?

i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?

darkspilver

John Davis: CCJW is used only in the US. CCJW is used by the US Branch service department as their corporate portion. In other countries, it would be a different corporation, such as in Britain it is the International Bible Student's Association.

?

Please explain why this 'Britain' letter was sent out last month using "CCJW" letter heading:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7addba/october_31_2017_to_all_congregations_re_new/

Out of interest, can you provide an example of a letter using the "IBSA" letter heading? It would be interesting to see.

There is also this letter: Watchtower and Tract Society of Britain: Letter, August 12, 2011, TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS, Re: Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses

https://jw.servehttp.com/en/letter.php?is=20110812LTE_bi.pdf

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Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.

jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.

by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .

darkspilver

This artical has been picked up by the website of the US news magazine The Week

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7dei5p/trey_bundy_reveal_jehovahs_witnesses_tab_for/

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When the “blood fractions” was available for any pacient as an alternative treatment?

by RodrigoGuerreiro in

sorry if my topic question was difficult to understand (english is not my native language).

i will like to know the year when the so called “blood fractions” was available as an alternative to a whole blood transfusion.

my question is triggered by the curiosity about how long jw died or put their life at risk, refusing that type of treatment before the year 2000 (when the “new light” allowed that type of treatment).. thank you.

darkspilver

Remember, in terms purely of 'blood fractions', there was this, from 1958.

There's more, but others can answer better than me.

I believe this QfR allowed for JWs to use Factor VIII?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_VIII

Watchtower September 15, 1958
Questions From Readers: Are we to consider the injection of serums such as diphtheria toxin antitoxin and blood fractions such as gamma globulin into the blood stream, for the purpose of building up resistance to disease by means of antibodies, the same as the drinking of blood or the taking of blood or blood plasma by means of transfusion?
No, it does not seem necessary that we put the two in the same category, although we have done so in times past. Each time the prohibition of blood is mentioned in the Scriptures it is in connection with taking it as food, and so it is as a nutrient that we are concerned with in its being forbidden. Thus when mankind for the first time was permitted to eat the flesh of animals, at the time of the restatement of the procreation mandate to the Deluge survivors, blood was specifically forbidden. (Gen. 9:3, 4) In the law of Moses blood was forbidden as food, and therefore we repeatedly find it linked with fat as things not to be eaten. (Lev. 3:17; 7:22-27) And so also in the days of the apostles; it was in connection with eating meat sacrificed to idols that the eating of strangled animals and blood was forbidden.—Acts 15:20, 29.
The injection of antibodies into the blood in a vehicle of blood serum or the use of blood fractions to create such antibodies is not the same as taking blood, either by mouth or by transfusion, as a nutrient to build up the body’s vital forces. While God did not intend for man to contaminate his blood stream by vaccines, serums or blood fractions, doing so does not seem to be included in God’s expressed will forbidding blood as food. It would therefore be a matter of individual judgment whether one accepted such types of medication or not.

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Whatever happened to Sue Pamela Carne AKA Paula Combs AKA suspected CIA operative??

by OrphanCrow in

moscow.

1983.. william plunkert.

diplomat at the us embassy in moscow.. sue pamela carne - american jehovah's witness woman employed as governess to plunkert.

darkspilver

I believe it used to be 2 new thread topics and 20 posts within any 24 hour period

Although I think that remains 'in principle' - the forum now takes into account the speed of your posts.

So it is best to wait as long as possible between new topics, which I believe has the strictest 'time' criteria applied to it.

If you post two new topics close together, the first will appear, but the second will be queued for up to 24 hours, but you can probably wait 12 hours and post a third new topic which gets to appear straight-away, before the second topic that was posted earlier gets to appear

With posts, just try not to post too quickly one after the other.

I think I'm on half-rations though - 1 new topic and 10 posts allowed per 24 hour period, and my 'up-votes' don't appear to be counted either (they disappear when I check back, including on other devices)