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  All Body of Elders in the UK – A Warning!

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  shortly after rising this morning (monday 20th november 2017), i checked the news on the bbc’s teletext service.

  in the uk (page 1010) the following had top billing…... “jehovah’s witnesses ‘covered up’ abuse”.

  “children who were sexually abused by jehovah’s witnesses were allegedly told by the organization not to report it.. victims from across the uk told the bbc they were routinely abused and that the religion’s own rules protected perpetrators.. one child abuse lawyer believes there could be thousands of victims across the country who have not come forward.. the organization said it did not ‘shield’ abusers and any suggestion of a cover-up was ‘absolutely false’.”.

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  Nicholaus Kopernicus: I checked the news on the BBC’s teletext service.

  WAIT! - this must surely be FAKE! Hasn't the teletext service been closed down??

  anyway, check out:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4902912666894336/ig-uk-bbc-news-storyy

  
  
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  2018 Memorial and Special Talk Speculation

  by SplaneThisToMe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we all know that the special talk titled "who really is jesus christ?

  " will be given before the memorial next year which is very new.

  also new this year is that the special talk will be prerecorded and given by a branch committee member rather than a brother from the local congregation.

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  Anony Mous: It will be the same old drab talk. But now it will be given by the GB

  Unlikely to be GB.

  Most congregations will view a talk that has been prerecorded by the branch office, and in many cases, given by a member of the Branch Committee.

  Since the speaker in the video recording will demonstrate how to develop an outline and effectively teach from it, each elder and ministerial servant who serves as a public speaker should carefully review the special talk outline, the Ministry School book, pages 52-55, and Reminders for Those Assigned Public Talks (S-141) before the talk is presented in the congregation.

  See:

  Letter September 18, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: 2018 Memorial and Special Talk

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/70w5sm/september_18_2017_to_all_congregations_re_2018/
  
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  BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

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  More coverage from today (Monday, November 20, 2017)

  • Jehovah’s Witness child abuse victims told ‘not to go to police’, The Times (UK), Nov 20, 2017

  • VICTIMS HUSHED: Children who were raped by Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘told NOT to report abuse because it would shame the church’ - The Sun (UK), Nov 20, 2017

  • Jehovah's Witnesses 'covered up' abuse - NewsOK (Oklahoma, US), Nov 20, 2017

  • Raped at the age of four, Jehovah's Witness told 'not to report' child abuse, International Business Times, Nov 20, 2017

  • Jehovah's Witnesses deny telling abuse victims not to call the police - Birmingham Mail (UK), Nov 20, 2017
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  BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

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  Following Louise Palmer's brief interview with the BBC today - highlighted in the OP - thought I'd post this.....

  My parents chose my brother, my abuser, over me. I can never forgive them for betrayal

  The Sunday People (Mirror Group, UK), Sunday, October 11, 2015

  A woman who was raped by her brother as a child has won justice but paid the heavy price of being disowned by their parents.

  Brave Louise Palmer, 38, suffered in silence for decades as her strict Jehovah’s Witness parents protected her abuser.

  She was only five when 14-year-old Richard Davenport started molesting her.

  He had moved into a caravan in the ­family’s garden because of a strained atmosphere in the house.

  He would offer to take little Louise to stay with him, supposedly to shield her from domestic violence scenes, but actually as an opportunity to abuse her.

  For six years Davenport, now 47, put helpless Louise through hell. He stopped only when her periods started and he feared she may get pregnant.

  She told parents Trevor and Diane and church elders about the vile abuse but shockingly they did nothing for fear of bringing shame on the name of God.

  
  

  • Mum-of-two raped by her brother when they were children slams appeal court for cutting his sentence, Daily Mirror (UK), May 26, 2016

  • Jail term cut for Richard Davenport who raped his sister Louise Palmer, Halesowen News (UK), June 1, 2016

  • Abused by my brother, then shunned by my Jehovah's Witnesses family after I went to police, Birmingham Mail (UK), Oct 11, 2015

  • My parents chose my brother, my abuser, over me. I can never forgive them for betrayal, Sunday People (Mirror) (UK), Oct 11, 2015

  • Richard Davenport jailed for historic rapes, Halesowen News (UK), Sept 22, 2015
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  2018 Memorial and Special Talk Speculation

  by SplaneThisToMe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we all know that the special talk titled "who really is jesus christ?

  " will be given before the memorial next year which is very new.

  also new this year is that the special talk will be prerecorded and given by a branch committee member rather than a brother from the local congregation.

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  Poztate: That "New Thing" will be a special contribution box at the back so for that meeting ALL revenue will be forwarded to the WTBTS

  sorry, that's already happened
  

  See the letter March 2, 2017 below - Re: Broadcast Events Held in Kingdom Halls - paragraphs 7 and 8
  

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5yjpir/march_2_2017_to_all_bodies_of_elders_in_the/

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/65ehf7/march_2_2017_to_all_bodies_of_elders_in_the_us/
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  JW Baptism Anullment

  by Farmer Jim1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone ever successfully annulled their jw baptism?

  especially if they were very young when baptised?.

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  Farmer Jim1: Has anyone ever successfully annulled their JW baptism? Especially if they were very young when baptised?

  Apparently yes, check the examples here...
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5732501685272576/watchtower-annulled-my-baptism

  JWFacts even claims to know of three people who their baptism annulled
  

  http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/grundy.php

  But then you have this......

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3ztrz8/women_calls_bethel_to_try_and_get_her_childhood/

  https://youtu.be/CES0o2qh8FQ
  
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  Inside the JW HQ Warwick, NY

  by baldeagle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a short 2-minute video from fox 5 news reviewing the new jw hq in warwick, ny.. the first thing the jw spokesperson says is, “our primary purpose is not to convert, but to give people an opportunity to see what the bible has to say.”.

  next the reporter says, “the new world headquarters, which opened last year, is home to about 800 jehovah's witnesses.”.

  it seems to me that 800 is an extremely low number since the glory days in brooklyn.

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  Check out the comments here : https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7d31m6/fox_5_ny_inside_the_jehovahs_witnesses/
  
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  WTBTS and the CCJW ?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  apparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.

  since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?

  i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?

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  John Davis - read the above August 12, 2011 letter, it explains the situation in Britain vis-a-vis CCJW, IBSA and WTBTSoB
  
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  WTBTS and the CCJW ?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  apparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.

  since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?

  i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?

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  John Davis: CCJW is used only in the US. CCJW is used by the US Branch service department as their corporate portion. In other countries, it would be a different corporation, such as in Britain it is the International Bible Student's Association.
  

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  Please explain why this 'Britain' letter was sent out last month using "CCJW" letter heading:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7addba/october_31_2017_to_all_congregations_re_new/

  Out of interest, can you provide an example of a letter using the "IBSA" letter heading? It would be interesting to see.

  There is also this letter: Watchtower and Tract Society of Britain: Letter, August 12, 2011, TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS, Re: Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  https://jw.servehttp.com/en/letter.php?is=20110812LTE_bi.pdf
  
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  Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.

  jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.

  by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .

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  This artical has been picked up by the website of the US news magazine The Week

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7dei5p/trey_bundy_reveal_jehovahs_witnesses_tab_for/