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  Jah Jireh Care Homes

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.jah-jireh.org/.

  they have care homes in england and wales: wigan, leyland, blackpool, methyr.and one in canada http://www.jah-jireh.on.ca/.

  these are not funded or subsidized by watchtower.

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  stan livedeath: what has my wifes job got to do
  

  sorry, I only mentioned it because you told us about yourself. In this thread. In a post that highlighted the fact by itself:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5629502937890816/_post/6268982229204992

  stan livedeath: thank goodness the regulatory authority--CQC--has teeth !
  

  I see that the CQC said that Polars on the Isle of Wight "requires improvement".... and it is closing down now next month:
  
  Isle of Wight care home closure blamed on rising costs and falling fees
  

  Isle of Wight County Press, Thursday, June 15, 2017

  Government austerity cuts have led to the closure of a Newport care home, with the loss of 49 jobs.

  Somerset Care said it was closing Polars, at Staplers Road, because it had been running at a loss for some time, partly due to low care fees paid by the Isle of Wight Council, living wage increases and building maintenance costs - with no signs of improvement.

  The company was working with the council to find new homes for Polars' 29 residents before it closes on September 12.

  Polars lost £170,000 last year. It costs £745 a week to care for each resident, but Somerset Care said it only received an average of £557 from the council. The spokeswoman said: "Somerset Care is a not-for-profit company with no shareholders. Any surplus is reinvested in the business. Unfortunately we cannot sustain loss-making services without jeopardising the viability of the whole company."

  http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/care-company-blames-rising-costs-and-falling-fees-for-closure-of-isle-of-wight-home-315474.aspx
  
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  How to disorder a JW (family) chat

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the moment that a nice family chat is moving to the propaganda game.. sister in law saying that jw.org is the highest ranked website, cousing saying that the new hq is energy neutral, aunt stating that jw have the best education.... what can we say on these moments?.

  that br splane just likes these new light ideas?.

  that a jw.org video stated that jw use the name jehovah because people recognize this name?.

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  StephaneLaliberte: The App connects to jw.org. Hence, usage statistics include the Mobile App. That being said, i would not expect for reused applications to count more then once as they would be downloaded only once.
  

  Cool thanks.
  
  It appears that the WT have decided to run virtually their entire digital footprint through just one central website, and the WT is also very centrally organized - this helps explain why it is so popular.
  
  Other organizations etc often appear to run their digital footprint over a multitude of (IMHO confusing) websites, which divides their individual popularity.
  
  Personally I have no doubt that the (vast?) majority of visitors to the jw.org website are JWs themselves, but that does not negate their visits.
  
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  Repository for JW "experiences" with Hurricane Harvey

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's only a matter of time of course..... jw rumor mills will start up soon, with stories of how jws were "first on the scene" as the flood waters receded..... how the red cross and/or us national guard and/or doctors without borders and/or [you name it] were marveling at just how "organized" the jws are..... how zealous jws were pulling their trolleys thru ankle-deep water to "offer comfort" to victims, by giving them - sandwiches?

  bottled water?

  to offer them comfort by giving them 16 page "magazines" to read in their spare time..... so as the stories start to come in, you can "deposit" those little nuggets of bs here.. once collected, we'll wrap them in a pretty bow and flush them away where other instances of pure manure go..

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  The Jehovah's Witnesses 2017 Regional Convention has been cancelled
  

  In view of the potential dangers of tropical storm Harvey, the Rosenberg Texas convention scheduled for this weekend (August 25-27) has been canceled and will be rescheduled to a new date.

  http://www.fox26houston.com/news/276069154-story
  
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  The org tightens the noose on J.W.'s thinking.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.

  the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.

  note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.

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  sir82: Notice how they interchange "negative" with "false", back and forth, repeatedly.

  I think that that is actually the bigger issue here.
  
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  How to disorder a JW (family) chat

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the moment that a nice family chat is moving to the propaganda game.. sister in law saying that jw.org is the highest ranked website, cousing saying that the new hq is energy neutral, aunt stating that jw have the best education.... what can we say on these moments?.

  that br splane just likes these new light ideas?.

  that a jw.org video stated that jw use the name jehovah because people recognize this name?.

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  jwundubbed: @darkspilver, So...
  

  It wasn't me. It was Gorbatchov's sister-in-law. I'm just a messenger.
  
  

  But it was certainly interesting to see the cognitive dissonance and strawman justification that her answer lead too...

  (btw as a side thought - I don't think we should confuse the website with the app which I believe operate independently? - the JWs can get all the stuff they need for meetings and ministry from the app, without ever actually visiting the website - in fact I know some JWs who never (or hardly ever) actually visit the website, but only use the app).

  Is it important? No. Although of course, it was important enough for YOU to ask for a citation, and Gorbatchov's sister-in-law gave you not one, but two.

  But the bottom-line is: Having a website, whether it is popular, or not, does not prove that the JW's are the 'right' religion.
  
  
  

  Now it is time for that sister-in-law to ask Gorbatchov a question: have you managed to find anything more out about all those Jewish Women?
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282479/history-jw-org-domain
  
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  The org tightens the noose on J.W.'s thinking.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.

  the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.

  note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.

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  in the upcoming Circuit Assembly talks

  FWIW - the talk that The Fall Guy quotes from is NOT in the public rank-and-file Circuit Assembly talks - rather it is in a talk to be given to the Regular Pioneers ONLY.

  PDF LINK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lRCkb90Ch5cnlXOWcyS1p3blU
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  Watchtower Society of Australia Financial reports to Charity Commission.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  screen capture from the watchtower society of australia's article's of association:.

  i wonder how item (e) is defined and whether they actually provide any money for charitable poverty relief?

  if so, i would love to see the evidence.

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  There's a petition for that....

  https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status
  
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  ANGOLA - JW Regional Convention target of attack.

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  according to news sources in luanda, angola (read it here, although it's in portuguese language), a regional convention of the jw's taking place this weekend at the outskirts of capital luanda was targeted yesterday, friday, by what may be described as a 'terrorist attack'.. more than 400 attendees (mostly female) passed out in rapid succession in the vicinity of a toilet at the convention place.

  reportedly, toxic gas devices were planted there by 3 young members of unita, the main political party that opposed mpla, the dominant regime party in angola since its independence in 1975.

  43 people were rushed to the hospital and a few remain there, under medical surveillance.

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  An English news report:
  

  Hmmm, yes, thanks - but, as per your username, please be careful and remember.....
  
  Sahara Reporters said: "A local news source, Portal de Angola, reported on Saturday that....
  http://saharareporters.com/2017/08/27/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witnesses-attacked-toxic-gas-angola
  
  Portal de Angola: credited thier entire story plus picture O Pais, which they put into brackets at the end
  http://www.portaldeangola.com/2017/08/mais-de-400-fieis-desmaiam-no-congresso-da-igreja-testemunhas-de-jeova/
  
  O Pais (The Country) - is apparently the original news report - and also included the article in the print newspaper version (copied again below, showing front page tag-line to inside story)
  http://opais.co.ao/mais-de-400-fieis-desmaiam-no-congresso-dos-jeova/
  
  So you see - yes three articles (two in Portuguese, one in English) - but they are not each independent reports - they all actually originate from the one same source - and two of them are merely 're-hashing' the story and I don't believe are adding anything new or unique to it (??).
  

  
  
  
  
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  Just A Thought Regarding The Bunker Video

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as ridiculous as the bunker video was, a few things popped into my consciousness as i was riding the train today.

  firstly, why did they go to all the expense and effort to not only create a bunker, but to furnish it like a living room complete with coffee table, armchair, shelves etc?

  i mean, a bunker should be a bunker... boxes of tinned food, tools, medical supplies, emergency gear etc.

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  Nah! That 'bunker' in the convention video is NOTHING!

  Check out the bunker kingdom hall the WT had planned for south-west London.....

  
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4803910902480896/wtbts-britain-selling-another-kingdom-hall
  
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  WTBTS of Britain selling another Kingdom Hall

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  while having a sojourn in se england yesterday (bank holiday weekend) i noticed this a few meters from the entrance to richmond park.... .

  this is the kingdom hall of the richmond park congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

  i checked the website of the estate agent (bonsors) and there is no mention of the property or the price.

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  Thanks Nicholaus Kopernicus - interesting.....
  
  

  hahaha!!

  SO THIS would be your BUNKER KINGDOM HALL!!!!!!

  No, really, I'm being SERIOUS! hahaha!!
  
  That KH is a bit of a sore sight for eyes! It also doesn't fit in with the surrounding (bigger) buildings that are three storey / two storey with big roofs.
  

  They asked the council for permission in 2009 to pull it all down and rebuild a replacement hall, with an oversized front flat wall, to fit in more with the surrounding area - BUT the council REFUSED them!

  
  Anyway - back to the bunker!
  
  In 2004 they asked the council for permission, in principle, to pull-down and rebuild with three storeys for minister living accommodation (1 x 1 bed flat and 1 x 2 bed flat) with a FULL BASEMENT that would contain the Kingdom Hall!!!! And the Council agreed and PERMITTED them! (they later tried to get 'full' permission but they withdrew the application - below is a mix of the stuff they submitted to show the whole development: (you can see the outline of the basement in the rear garden)
  
  https://maps.kingston.gov.uk/propertyServices/Planning/ImageMenu?system=DC&fCaseNo=04/12451/OUT&caseNo=0412451
  

  (In the UK they use Ground Floor = 1st Floor / 1st Floor = 2nd Floor)