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  Hard to Remember but Back in the Ninteen Fifies...

  by new boy in

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  my writing a book about my strange life as a jw.

  i need some help.. does anyone remember when they used to get these charts out at the service meetings which had all the hours, "back calls" and bible studies on it?

  what did they call that?.

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  a cardboard prop to look like a car

  We had this one as well, four chairs arranged behind the cardboard to look like a group in service.

  One of my favourites was the segment of the Theocratic News (in the KM, done one SM in a month).

  The bros made a cardboard TV set, with a cut-out the size of the TV screen.

  Speaker says, And now, with the Theocratic News, Br. Schmo.

  Br. Schmo (inside mock TV): Good evening, ...

  Also, with the written review, the review sheets were passed out, as well as pieces of thin pressboard, smooth on one side, to use as backing for writing the written review, The written review was passed to a neighbour for evaluation - the kids were always strict in marking each other's answers.
  
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  the Guardians of Doctrine - What was your view of GB 1.0?

  by berrygerry in

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  when i was an all-in, younger, somewhat uber-dub - i envisioned the governing body as spending 16 to 18 hours a day at the bethel library, with their noses in the bible and associated research books.

  sky-j was propelling his holy spirit directly at them, maybe opening the book to the right page or paragraph, and zap, new light.. when i learned that these dudes only met on wednesday mornings, for as little as 10 minutes, and spent the rest of their time managing and traveling, it was quite a letdown.. anyone have such thoughts of our guardians of doctrine?.

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  When I was an all-in, younger, somewhat uber-Dub - I envisioned the Governing Body as spending 16 to 18 hours a day at the Bethel library, with their noses in the Bible and associated research books. Sky-J was propelling his Holy Spirit directly at them, maybe opening the book to the right page or paragraph, and ZAP, new light.

  When I learned that these dudes only met on Wednesday mornings, for as little as 10 minutes, and spent the rest of their time MANAGING and traveling, it was quite a letdown.

  Anyone have such thoughts of our Guardians Of Doctrine?
  
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  WT's expert on blood!

  by Joyzabel in

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  2. medical

  the january 8, 2000 awake magazine published an article "the growing demand for bloodless medicine and surgery".

  this article has been quoted extensively by jws as support for their "scientific" justification for refusing blood products.. a quote from that article that is familiar to most jws and exjws is this one:.

  “all those dealing with blood and caring for surgical patients have to consider bloodless surgery.”—dr.

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  berrygerry

  No need for retraction.

  There will be a providential reason for this that will be revealed in the unknown future.

  Same thing happened with 1914.
  

  Revelation Climax book:
  

  [Footnote]
  Providentially, those Bible Students had not realized that there is no zero year between “B.C.” and “A.D.” Later, when research made it necessary to adjust B.C. 606 to 607 B.C.E., the zero year was also eliminated, so that the prediction held good at “A.D. 1914.”
  
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  History of DF - Question

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  from reading crisis of a conscience and members here, i have gathered that df was originally a means to cleanse bethel and stop apostates from spreading their own thinking inside the organization.

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  when did it also branch over to sinners that were struggling with an issue that relapsed on multiple occasions?

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  http://www.taxfundedabuse.ca/shunning.php

  Key scriptures overlooked by WT:

  James 5:15 "will be forgiven" (not conditional on a committee's whim - WILL BE forgiven )

  James 4:11, 12 "He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother speaks against law and judges law. Now if you judge law, you are, not a doer of law, but a judge. 12 One there is that is lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But you, who are you to be judging [your] neighbor?"

  Also see Draw Close to Jehovah, ch. 16, par 14

  Why must we “stop judging” others? For one thing, our authority is limited. The disciple James reminds us: “One there is that is lawgiver and judge”—Jehovah. So James pointedly asks: “Who are you to be judging your neighbor?” (James 4:12; Romans 14:1-4) In addition, our sinful nature can so easily render our judgments unfair. Many attitudes and motives—including prejudice, injured pride, jealousy, and self-righteousness—can distort the way we see fellow humans. We have further limitations, and reflecting on these should restrain us from being quick to find fault with others. We cannot read hearts; nor can we know all the personal circumstances of others. Who, then, are we to impute wrong motives to fellow believers or to criticize their efforts in God’s service? How much better it is to imitate Jehovah by looking for the good in our brothers and sisters rather than focusing on their failings!
  
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  Going Back To Meeting Tomorrow

  by Hadriel in

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  i'm returning to jehovah tomorrow night.

  but yeah i'm going to the meeting to put in my token visit as part of my fade.

  even if you don't believe in god pray that i can keep my mouth shut for a couple of hours because it's going to be awfully hard to do so.. before i woke i was quite involved, commented a ton, personable.

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  berrygerry

  If the elders give you a hard time tell them you have anal stenosis along with a raging case of hemorrhoids. Tell them that you acquired it from not wiping properly. Tell them that you get relief from freezing hot dogs and sticking them up there. Tell them that you don't like wasting food so you boil em up afterwards.

  I go through about six a day - would you like to come by after the meeting for hot dogs and beer?
  
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  UK: Would anyone like to attend Frank Otuo's next hearing against the Watchtower? Or send him your support?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  www.standard.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-sues-for-150000-after-church-snubbed-him-over-fraud-claims-9750062.htmlfrank otuo is suing the watchtower for disfellowshipping him and causing the loss of his family and his friends, after being disfellowshipped based on a false accusation of fraud.on friday may 13th 2016, a hearing will take place to decide whether the watchtower's defence will be thrown out.otuo is confident that it will be.

  ;)would anyone like to be there on the day, to see what happens and maybe even report back and tell us what you saw?.

  otuo would like it if some people could be there to cheer him on, as it were.

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  Hopefully, Black Friday for WT.
  
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  My sister denounced the two elders

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. scandals

  yesterday my sister presented, against the two stalker elders, a complaint before the district prosecutor.

  the prosecutor said to my sister that in the country there are freedom of religion, so it is totally illegal to accuse a person loudly in the street before her neighbors , and to insist for going to a illegal judicial questioning.

  she even showed to the prosecutor a past notification in which she asked to the elders a written document specifying the charge of apostasy so as to attend the judiciary meeting with her attorney.

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  After the RAC (ARC), the elder book is in the public domain.

  The "Shepherd the Flock of God" book is a publicly available "legal document,"

  entered as an exhibit in the ARC, Document ID: WAT.0003.001.0001

  
  

  
  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney
  
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  I need food for thought..

  by raven in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends,it has been 20 years that i've slaved for the wt and through out the past couple of years i could feel myself fighting an urge to accept that something was not right.

  i fought it off for so long only for it to resurface frequently throughout my years of pioneering, assembly/convention parts, & speaking with people about the "truth", slaving and giving to try to be a "spiritual person" but in reality i was not spiritual because spirituality (according to the org) is doing all of the things they want you to do.

  which then will label you as spiritual... no !!!

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  Raven and Stephanie:

  James 1:27
  
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  My 14-year-old niece is being disfellowshipped

  by keyser soze in

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  i was contacted by my ex sister-in-law yesterday.

  she asked me if i wanted to spend some time with my niece, while she went to her sister's baby shower.

  it turns out my niece can't go because she's about to be disfellowshipped at the ripe old age of 14. .

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  Which country?
  
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  ToMo has a New Soulmate - Toronto woman wakes up to raccoon sex

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “i found it gross and disgusting.".

  http://www.torontosun.com/2016/04/09/toronto-woman-wakes-up-to-raccoon-sex.

  - if you see this balcony rockin’, don’t come knockin’.it was too early thursday morning for ava kwinter to unsee what she describes as a “traumatic” start to her day.as she passed by her door leading to the second-floor balcony just before 7 a.m., she saw two shadowy figures locked in an embrace.“the sun was already coming up but it was still dark,” she said.

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  I mean- come on Ms. Ava Kwinter how would YOU like it if you were in the clutches of a nice orgasm with your husband or boyfriend and people were snapping pictures of you two " doing it " ?

  http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/04/11/gay-talese-the-voyeurs-motel