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  Big Elder Removal in Temecula, California

  by jacobm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all,.

  i heard from a friend that there was a big elder removal in my old city, temecula.

  just rumor.

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  berrygerry

  there was a big Elder removal in my old City

  Targeting the obese?
  
  
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  custody orders, proving to the court why my daughters should be baptized at 18. JW OR NOT

  by Gokumonkey in

  1. social
  2. family

  hello everyone ive been posting about this situation about my daughters and their jw mom so if u want to get a back story about whats going on you can check out my previous posts.. note- daughters are only 5 months old, and i live in the united states.. right now im typing up my court orders to present to the court but ive come to a road block.

  i want to add reasons to why its not a good idea to have my daughters be baptized at a young age.. here is my rough draft -.

  "age appropriate baptism – i wish that my daughters to be baptized at the legal age of 18 years old.

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  These sorts of things are typically never enforced by a judge and most will loathe even putting it in there. The JW parent has freedom of religion as do your kids, baptism is not a legal contract and thus cannot be legally enforced so there is no legal restriction possible.

  I disagree.
  

  https://www.canlii.org/en/#search/text=jehovah%20AND%20child%20AND%20baptize
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  September 1, 2017 BOE Re: Protecting Minors From Abuse?

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have it in spanish for now: .

  1 de septiembre de 2017 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: protección de los menores contra el abuso.

  please send this letter to me from any branch you have access to, in any language.

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  Even in Europe where it is common for people to travel quite frequently to other countries within the union if the offense took place in one country where it might be legal for that to have occurred but was reported in another country where the age of consent is higher. How do you deal with a situation like that?

  Dude, you are seriously missing the point.

  Why in the world are WT and elders involving themselves in sex crimes?

  In Canada, EVERY citizen is a mandatory reporter.

  As the ARC showed, among other things, WT investigating interferes with the proper authority's investigation AND causes further trauma to the victim.

  Why the freak are these rent-a-cops playing God?

  "Br. Brown: Johnny says ... "

  Br. Brown - 911.

  That's it. That's all.
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  September 1, 2017 BOE Re: Protecting Minors From Abuse?

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have it in spanish for now: .

  1 de septiembre de 2017 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: protección de los menores contra el abuso.

  please send this letter to me from any branch you have access to, in any language.

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  But especially thank you to the Australian Royal Commission (who I hope have a copy of this) who have placed hooks in the jaws of Watchtower and dragged them screaming and kicking to this point.

  That was my thought.

  Dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century.
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  Cart witnessing in the quietest in my suburb.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i walked to the station yesterday to meet a friend, and on the way, in what must be the quietest street in the entire suburb, were two j.witnesses and their little cart, all set with a literature display.

  i wondered what point there may have been to choose that location.

  i felt like grabbing one of their bibles and reading matthew 5:15 to them:.

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  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=greatest+preaching+work&p=sen&r=occ
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  Trouble in paradise!

  by Confusedalot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.

  will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?

  if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?

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  Insight Book - Lion

  when trying to prey upon domestic animals in an enclosure, a lion often will roar. The terrifying sound is calculated to cause a stampede to break down the protective fence and to isolate individual animals from the flock. The animal does well in its pacing. (Pr 30:29, 30) Its strength is proverbial. (Jg 14:18; Pr 30:30) A single blow from the lion’s powerful paw is enough to break the neck of a small antelope. Thelion can kill and carry animals larger than itself, and its short, strong jaws are equipped with teeth of sufficient strength to break large bones.

  The picture of a lion in paradise holding a beach ball seems to not quite fit.
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  Advice on family waking up to TTATT

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you've been following my posts here, i am physically in and mentally out.

  it's so hard because i wish that my family could wake up just as easily as i did.

  the other day i had a conversation with a relative regarding whether they have come to terms with their own mortality and they replied that they try not to think about it too much but also said that it's possible that armageddon would even happen long after they are gone, which i thought was a very interesting thought.. maybe it's just me, but i feel like what made me wake up easily was that i've always had little doubts here and there but this was stuff like me being unable to grasp the concept of how one could be anointed and how would you know if you were.

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  Personally my parents are in their 50's now and I can't help but question myself "Should I even try to help them wake up? This would rock their entire world, they've devoted the majority of their lives to these beliefs. Their social circle is this, this is their life. What good could I be doing if I were to tear that down? Could they even handle it properly that what they consider truth isn't entirely true?" Sometimes I honestly think it's better off that they don't because I don't know how they would handle it

  Lots of variables - family, employment, retirement, making friends outside, etc.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

  In The True Believer,9 a book on mass movements, Eric Hoffer suggests at least a third of the population are "true believers." They are joiners and followers, people who want to give away their power, looking for answers, meaning, and enlightenment outside themselves. This type of person is "not intent on bolstering and advancing a cherished self, but are those craving to be rid of unwanted self." This type of person is "eternally incomplete and eternally insecure!" and can easily be transformed into fanatics who will gladly work and die for their holy cause whether politics, churches, businesses or social cause groups. Mass movements generally have a charismatic ruler, and a devil. This type of person is unlikely to be reading this site, they don't want to know. Neither am I convinced that this type of person should stop being a Jehovah's Witness. If they do they most likely will become involved in a similar organization that also uses manipulation to force its members into a prescribed way of life.

  If they're better off out -

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
  
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  Last nights CLAM meeting

  by dbq407 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so hadn't been to a clam meeting in quite a few months, but went last night.

  so we learned that gog of magog is not satan as previously believed.

  they used a few scriptures that made it clear that it couldn't be satan and that it would be a coalition of nations.

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  It took the ruling King Jesus Christ 103 years to make that plain to the Governing body ?

  Off with his head. (By this, I mean Smiddy's head, for dissing the king.)
  
  
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  Pornography - Old Elders Letter But It Made Me LOL!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, this is from 2006. but someone on reddit mentioned it and posted a link.

  my word, the micro-management and unnecessary lengths they go to to control:.

  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b2fynzabupqfsnvqtxjmyxjvmgm/view.

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  The part about this letter that always got me, is that they mention child pornography as "just another" type of pornography, even if "abhorrent".

  Apology from HQ:

  "Jehovah's Witnesses view abhorrent child pornography."
  
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  What is the watchtower going to do when

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what is the watchtower going to do when the money runs out ??

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  One must remember that Rutherford fully envisioned Watch Tower as a monetary opportunity. Early letters showed that it was always money-driven. There was money to be made in the five-and-dime era.

  Things changed significantly for sales-driven religions with the Jimmy Swaggart decision.

  Sales would slowly reduce. Tithe-based religions have fared better - i.e. Mormons and Scientology.

  Canadian department stores have run a similar course to Watch Tower.

  For decades, Canada had three major chains, lowend Sears (the newest), highend Hudson's Bay (the oldest), and middle Eatons.

  There were smaller chains - Woolco, Woolworths, and Zellers.

  Walmart's foray into Canada in 1994 was accompanied by the purchase of Woolco. (Woolco had made a major strategic error when the GST was introduced. Woolco included the GST in their advertised and rack price, while all other retailers added GST at checkout. So, Woolco's prices were perceived to be higher.)

  Even without Walmart, Eaton's could not maintain the challenging middle position. But Walmart was the nail in Eaton's coffin, and it went bankrupt in 1999.

  Target tried Canada in 2011, buying Zellers from Hudson's Bay. Target wasted $2,000,000,000 before exiting in 2015.

  Which leaves us Sears Canada.

  The slow death of Sears Canada is similar to Watch Tower.

  Instead of truly adapting, token efforts were made at peripheral changes.

  The only thing that maintained Sears Canada was its real estate, and the real estate market exceeding in value far greater than the inflation rate since 1992.

  Although that carried Sears for a quite-extended period of time, they were forced to liquidate real estate and consolidate stores, year after year.

  All other measures of belt-tightening were exhausted, until the inevitable finally happened this year.

  Watch Tower has been on a remarkably similar trajectory, especially over the past five years, although the beginning of the end started around the same time, in 1995 IMO.

  They have tightened their belt as much as they can. There are no more cuts to be made.

  Kingdom Hall consolidation is in full progress.

  Just as there were no Millennials wandering the aisles at Sears Canada, Watch Tower is unable to replace their aging customer base.

  There is a death-watch on, and it cannot be stopped.