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  Paradise? Was it?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  paradisewas it really paradise to be in paradise?adam and eve never were held by a mother, never cuddled and sung to with a lullaby nor nursed or coddled with tenderness or any human familial embrace.

  the first humans (adam and eve) never learned to toddle surrounded by brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles and grandparents cheering them on.

  the entire experience of childhood was excised surgically like a trauma patient awakening from an accident with amnesia.adam and eve were never in a neighborhood with other kids forming friendship bonds for life and exchanging dreams and hopes for a future they were building in their community.

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  would have eaten anything to keep her.

  Almost anything. Needs to be Anthony Morris approved.
  
  
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  What's Old Is New Again

  by berrygerry in

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  2. beliefs

  from annual meeting.

  re: dropping non-progressing magazine calls.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/163404/does-anyone-remember-big-6-month-bible-study-push-during-mid-1990s.

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  From Annual Meeting. Re: Dropping non-progressing magazine calls.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/163404/does-anyone-remember-big-6-month-bible-study-push-during-mid-1990s
  
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  ARC—What's Next?

  by Saename in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so as we know, the wt changed very little with regards to how they respond to child sexual abuse allegations.

  they basically ignored the australian royal commission's report on how they could improve their policies.

  the watchtower is left alone in australia to do as they please, or will there be some kind of follow-up?

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  I think it will be interesting to see when kingdom halls around Australia suddenly start announcing elder so and so has to step down.

  This is real. The gossip machine will be whirling away, at a minimum.

  Also, I do not know the class action process in Oz, but given the class actions started in Canada, it is difficult to see it not happen there too.

  
  
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  Door-to-door Going Forward

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found that the sale (placement) of books and magazines was always a challenge, but it was still attainable.

  when the magazines switched from semi-monthly to monthly, magazine calls were automatically cut in half.

  return visits that were made "just to say hi" were hugely awkward.. i never participated in the "please watch a video on my tablet" work, but i would imagine that the fail rate compared to magazine placement is massive.. reducing magazine frequency yet again would make me worked up inside.

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  I found that the sale (placement) of books and magazines was always a challenge, but it was still attainable.

  When the magazines switched from semi-monthly to monthly, magazine calls were automatically cut in half. Return visits that were made "just to say Hi" were hugely awkward.

  I never participated in the "please watch a video on my tablet" work, but I would imagine that the fail rate compared to magazine placement is massive.

  Reducing magazine frequency yet again would make me worked up inside. Return visits will virtually disappear altogether.

  Would anyone want to do door-to-door in the future?
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  Interesting conversation with JW friend

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

  i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

  and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

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  However, in the case of Eutychus at Acts 20:9, the ransom had already been paid. So Eutychus, according to God's own law on sin, should still be alive.

  Damn. Good one.
  
  
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  Interesting conversation with JW friend

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

  i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

  and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

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  I believe the Lazarus' defense is that Jesus hadn't given his ransom yet, so no one was entitled to a perfect resurrection.

  But your question is still valid.

  If Lazarus paid the penalty of sin, why resurrect him again as being imperfect (WT answer is that that way, Lazarus can be resurrected the next time as a 144,000).
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  October 8, 2017 BOE Re: New JW.ORG E-Mail

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 8, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the australasia branch territory re: new jw.org e-mail.

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  Canada version?
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  My Book of Bible Stories. Comedy sketch

  by usualusername1 in

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  2. friends

  guys.

  i am trying to write a stand up comedy sketch on my book of bible stories.. one idea is how the violence, rape have helped me with making decisions as an adult.

  another idea is to pretend the book is being released today and attempt to sell the book and stories to the audience.. do you have any ideas?.

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  https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBookofBS/
  
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  Do not think the end will come?

  by Akid48 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thats somthing i see thats asked in my kingdom hall if you want to go get more than 2 years in collage.thing in some one asking that to me or etc i cant say any thing or that would show that i dont believe.. i hate when some one askes me that when i try to plan ahead when it comes to what job i want.what job would help me hold my own but no god will give if you put him first.i dont believe in god even when i did i never buyed into that.. it seems you cant get away from the question im only 13 and i get that question theres no getting away from it..

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  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2004885?q=Father+used+to+say+that+we+should+plan+ahead+as+if+Armageddon&p=sen
  
  

  Father used to say that we should plan ahead as if Armageddon would not come in our lifetime but lead our life as if it would come tomorrow—precious advice that I have always tried to apply. Balancing patience and eager expectation is not always easy, especially since the ravages of old age now keep me confined at home.
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  Help with acceptance for JW family still in

  by MaryKN in

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  2. experiences

  well, it's been a long time!

  i first lurked here around 20 years ago and read huge amounts of threads which certainly helped when i was making my decision to leave the religion.

  i was never baptised (resisted it!

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  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php
  

  In The True Believer,9 a book on mass movements, Eric Hoffer suggests at least a third of the population are "true believers." They are joiners and followers, people who want to give away their power, looking for answers, meaning, and enlightenment outside themselves. This type of person is "not intent on bolstering and advancing a cherished self, but are those craving to be rid of unwanted self." This type of person is "eternally incomplete and eternally insecure!" and can easily be transformed into fanatics who will gladly work and die for their holy cause whether politics, churches, businesses or social cause groups. Mass movements generally have a charismatic ruler, and a devil. This type of person is unlikely to be reading this site, they don't want to know. Neither am I convinced that this type of person should stop being a Jehovah's Witness. If they do they most likely will become involved in a similar organization that also uses manipulation to force its members into a prescribed way of life.