Blondie:
You are a treasure on this forum.
Your knowledge and/or research ability exceeds that of the GB combined.
Always appreciate facts.
berrygerry
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DF=death
by doneandout inour last midweek meeting was going along as planed, then after the last talk, an elder was called up to say: member x is no longer a jw, please sing.... after the song it was silent (compared to todays were people started talk right away) and the father had his head down with someones hand on his back.
i didn't catch what they were saying, but the pose said: i'm sorry for your loss.. it was a weird night thinking how leaving a religion could couse such sadnness.. jw.org.
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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...
by stuckinarut2 inok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
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berrygerry
I remember AP'ing in August, and trying to find people to go out with.
I love the pressure on the body to pioneer in August.
Your family and you don't need a break this summer.
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Is the number of JWs leaving increasing?
by dozy ini don't mean jws getting stumbled or bored or getting dfd for immorality- there always have been a certain number of those all the time.. i've been out for a few years now but am curious to know from "still ins" if there is any evidence of increasing numbers of people leaving for classic "apostate" reasons - ie either fading or getting dfd because they have done research & realise that this isn't "the truth".. when i was a jw occasionally i would hear of someone suddenly stopping going to meetings & hearing through the grapevine & jw gossip mill that the person no longer believed it was the truth or had expressed doubts in the "slave" etc.
but it didn't happen very often ( though it was increasing somewhat in the years before i left).. one would imagine with the internet & increased information available to all that this would be happening more often.
any evidence of this , anecdotally?
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berrygerry
The other change is the 15 minute a month reporting.
Elders visiting seniors residences encourage them to report. (The instructions for recording are to save the time up until it reaches an hour, but to count the person as an active publisher for every month).
Just a trick to boost the number of publishers.
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Leo Greenlees - shuffled to Toronto Bethel - anyone know for how long?
by berrygerry init would seem logical that greenlees was shuffled to toronto to allow for a settling period.. anyone know for how long he was there - or any other info?.
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berrygerry
It would seem logical that Greenlees was shuffled to Toronto to allow for a settling period.
Anyone know for how long he was there - or any other info?
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Instrucitons for using the toilet at the convention (pic)
by maninthemiddle inthis was posted in the men's room stall, i hear the instructions in the womens room was more detailed.. this was in addition to having a "bathroom attendant" handing out 1 paper towel per person.. i haven't felt so childish since i was in grade schooll, i had to wonder if all the tall people around me were really grown men and women.. .
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berrygerry
"Correct Cleaning of the Anus"
Can't wait for the video for the deaf.
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NLP, Subliminal Messages and the WT Writing Department
by 00DAD ina few years ago i became interested in the subject of neuro-linguistic programming (nlp).
while the core concepts of nlp have been largely discredited as new-age pseudo-science, there is no doubt that there is at least some validity to the idea.
words and images remain the key way we communicate.
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berrygerry
Reminds me of the confusion and guilt I felt years ago as I read an article that didn't quite answer the question of whether it was okay to pray for a DF'd person.
The number of confused prayers I said about my DF'd child was endless.
The statement about "right" being different than "not wrong" is very correct.
Only in math does a double negative become a positive - not in English.
Double negatives are an essential part of accurate speech.
Unfortunately, the WTS does use as a CYA.
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Gestapo Tactics - the Wayne Rogers story
by Lee Elder inhttp://ajwrb.org/experiences/gestapo-tactics-the-wayne-rogers-story.
gestapo tactics the wayne rogers storyposted on july 27, 2014 by lee elderfreedom of thought is a right that many people take for granted.
there are many people who believe they have freedom of thought, but are mistaken.
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berrygerry
“That they [Jehovah's Witness] must adhere absolutely to the decisions and scriptural understandings of the Society because God has given it this authority over his people.” Watchtower, May 1, 1972, p. 272
Hey Lee Elder:
For the sake of accuracy, my WTL doesn't have this quote. What am I missing?
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Gestapo Tactics - the Wayne Rogers story
by Lee Elder inhttp://ajwrb.org/experiences/gestapo-tactics-the-wayne-rogers-story.
gestapo tactics the wayne rogers storyposted on july 27, 2014 by lee elderfreedom of thought is a right that many people take for granted.
there are many people who believe they have freedom of thought, but are mistaken.
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berrygerry
I'm not going to hijack this thread, as it is so important.
But I went to the referenced article, and made this post:
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View of Authority - The Ultimate Borg Article - May 1, 1972, page 267 - (Feel free to jump in, sistahs)
by berrygerry inanother thread referenced this article - pretty well defines life via wts.. the reference paragraphs are endless, and not to be a spoiler-alerter, but the sentence from paragraph 20 sums it up:.
"rather than be curbed at armageddon or later, it is wise to develop and display understanding with respect to authority so we will be the kind of persons jehovah wants in his new order of righteousness.
as a poster in another thread said (not verbatim), if that's paradise, i'll pass..
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berrygerry
Another thread referenced this article - pretty well defines life via WTS.
The reference paragraphs are endless, and not to be a spoiler-alerter, but the sentence from paragraph 20 sums it up:
"Rather than be curbed at Armageddon or later, it is wise to develop and display understanding with respect to authority so we will be the kind of persons Jehovah wants in his new order of righteousness. "
As a poster in another thread said (not verbatim), If that's paradise, I'll pass.
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should there be a rule against posting PMs ?
by MissFit inmost people feel that it is unethical to post private messages.. how ever there does not seem to be a posting rule against it.. some people unfamiliar with posting on boards may not realize that it is not done to post private messages .
( even though it would seem self evident with the word private in it.).
so what do you think about making it an official posting rule?.
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berrygerry
Hi.
I think the OP needs clarification.
Is the objection to:
- receiving PM's,
- PM's being publicly posted,
- other?