Posts by berrygerry

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

berrygerry

Oppostate: "And he publicly posted the list of 95 theses* on unscriptural practices by the Papists and thus igniting the Protestant Reformation. Martin would be right here, or be JWfacts if he lived now.

Not just Luther, but all of the Protestants previously lauded by GB 1.0

Was thinking of Tyndale:

John Foxe describes an argument with a "learned" but "blasphemous" clergyman, who had asserted to Tyndale that, "We had better be without God's laws than the Pope's." Tyndale responded: "I defy the Pope, and all his laws; and if God spares my life, ere many years, I will cause the boy that driveth the plow to know more of the Scriptures than thou dost!"

GB 2.0 has moved towards the position that was held by the previously-despised RCC. The Bible cannot be understood except through the GB, and even if they're presently wrong, God wants us to obey them.

Tyndale could be reworded:

"I defy the ~~Pope~~ GB, and all ~~his~~ their laws; and if God spares my life ... "

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WTS - Open and Transparent ?

by berrygerry in

met a nice person the other day who belonged to the salvation army.

(late 50's).

i do not know anything about them, other than their kettles at christmas, and that they used to have a shelter for homeless (often ridiculed as a haven for gay predators).. this member was talking about going on this disaster relief mission and that disaster relief mission - which quite surprised me.. was wanting to see them again, and ask if their org.

berrygerry

Met a nice person the other day who belonged to the Salvation Army. (late 50's)

I do not know anything about them, other than their kettles at Christmas, and that they used to have a shelter for homeless (often ridiculed as a haven for gay predators).

This member was talking about going on this disaster relief mission and that disaster relief mission - which quite surprised me.

Was wanting to see them again, and ask if their org. provided them with financial statements.

And then realized that there was this new thingey called the internet.

Sure enough, they have audited statements, not just for members, but available for all the public, online, going back to 2005.

http://salvationist.ca/departments/finance/

Wow, just like Watch Tower. /s

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Recording that would blow up viral!

by aintenoughwiskey in

i was wondering if anyone had an audio recording of a woman, preferably a minor being asked the intimate details of a fornication jc.

that would hit the fan hard.

berrygerry

It's a huge thing for anyone, esp. female, esp. young.

Also, remember people going into a JC have no idea that it will unfold as it does,

I imagine that the vast majority are shocked at how it proceeds, as well as the questions that are asked, and how the elders tag-team the questions.

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

berrygerry

Also, it seems very much like David Splane is the man in charge of looking at all of their old doctrine and "fixing it," since he also gave the big New Light talk about the Types and Antitypes.

I've crossed paths (not swords) far too often with Mr. Splane (CO - 3 times - many coincidences).

The first time I had him as CO, he CREEPED me out bigtime (and I was a full-in zealot at the time).

HOWEVER, of the current seven, he is the only one with an actual story-line going on in his head. I would say he is the only one to take care of present doctrine, alongside pup Sanderson.

(Just like war; when bogged down, send in the Canadians.)

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New (non)-Witnessing Model

by berrygerry in

so, one of the kids on reddit posted this video - an evangelist trying to witness to guardians of the cart.

(both sides are fairly respectful imo).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbc9c4ajly&feature=youtu.be.

berrygerry

So, one of the kids on reddit posted this video - an evangelist trying to witness to Guardians of the Cart. (Both sides are fairly respectful IMO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbc9c4aJLY&feature=youtu.be

The Dub makes the interesting statement:

We're not here to discuss Bible, or argue with anyone. We're just here to provide free publications to people who want ...

So, is this because he's an evangelist, or are these trail-blazing pioneers simply there to Guard the Cart?

If so, wouldn't it behoove WTS to just invest in 24/7 vending machines?

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

berrygerry

So Paul G cites the term "governing body" doesn't appear in WT until 1943, and the capitalized version in 1971.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/governing-body.php

So, now there was no FDS prior to 1919.

So, who was the FDS prior to 1971, or at least prior to 1943?

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Welcome to Jurassic World

by berrygerry in

this summer, discover the one place, where your family will create unforgettable memories.

welcome to jurassic world.. welcome to jurassic world.. .

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berrygerry

This summer, discover the one place, where your family will create unforgettable memories. Welcome to Jurassic World.

Welcome to Jurassic World.

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Does Bruce Jenner (Caitlyn) qualify for Baptism?

by John Aquila in

im not sure if bruce had a sex operation but lets say someone did have a sex operation and then studied with the witnesses and wanted to get baptized, would he qualify in todays jw world?

could he have privileges?

the bible says the past cant be held against you, once you accept the truth.

berrygerry

We had a male study in our KH.

He moved to another province and got baptized, after changing back to female.

(Explained why he sucked so bad at football.)

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shunning is like corbin

by poopie in

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a true life example i have a friend that is disfellowshipped the elders do not want to reinstate because he helps his elderly parents to much ie mow lawn help when theres car trouble etc so shunning is like corbin bro pharisee

berrygerry

What is his parents' status?

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Canada Branch Finances - What's Going On?

by berrygerry in

an update on the canada branch hasn't been made (i think).. year-over-year, canada's equity decreased by 11 million in 2012, 17 million in 2013.. however, the 2014 report shows a huge increase (20 million) in the cost of "purchased supplies.

" with the shrinkage of the mags, and the push to online, how the heck did this go from 39 million to 58 million?.

even with this number, the equity in 2014 went down by a staggering 56 million.. what the heck is going on?.

berrygerry

Isn't the WTS tax-free anyway? So what would be the point of these gifts then, as a tax-return on an already zero tax?

They shouldn't be.

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http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/chrts/plcy/csp/csp-p13-eng.html