Posts by berrygerry

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priveledges an extra layer of protection

by aintenoughwiskey in

i have noticed when an elder or ms gets in serious trouble, many times it's simply a demotion.

local example.

well liked ms son of a prominent elder/pioneer gets caught doing the dance with no pants with his fiancee.

berrygerry

The perpetual question: "He is genuinely repentant."

How (and who) determines repentance?

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priveledges an extra layer of protection

by aintenoughwiskey in

i have noticed when an elder or ms gets in serious trouble, many times it's simply a demotion.

local example.

well liked ms son of a prominent elder/pioneer gets caught doing the dance with no pants with his fiancee.

berrygerry

If it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past:

The body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true: The immorality or other serious wrongdoing occurred more than a few years ago [subsequent BOE letter specifies minimum of 3 years], and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned. (Perhaps he has even confessed to his sin, seeking help with his guilty conscience.) He has been serving faithfully for many years, has evidence of God’s blessing, and has the respect of the congregation.

has evidence of God’s blessing - Has said elder been putting out for the Borg?

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Being shunned only increases my certainty that the WBT$ is a cult

by punkofnice in

well, i don't wanna rant too much but sometimes things cut you don't they.. a family member had a get together for the family, jw and non jw and of course i wasn't invited being da'd.. i understand why they couldn't invite me but it just made me think.

in normal society this wouldn't happen.

i'd have been there.. the shunning is so unnatural and damaging.

berrygerry

Posted on reddit

I'm sitting at the Regional Convention after having been disfellowshipped only a couple weeks ago. I don't understand why the elders encourage you to come to this. I understand wanting you to be encouraged, but my entire time so far has been seeing people in my hotel, around the city, and in the stadium that I've known all my life look at me and light up a little like old friends do then quickly remember my status and divert their eyes to the ground and walk away. I understand people shouldn't talk to me. But it's hard swallowing this as a loving provision. I should've saved the money on a hotel and stayed home. I'm not going to get anything out of the program. You know how you can feel people in your own hall looking at you when you're df'd, just multiply that by a few hundred. Now I guess my weekend is anxious vomiting and watching some dramas.

Sorry for the rant. Needed to say this to SOMEone. Having grown up in the truth I don't have a lot of best friends I Can talk to now about my situation.

Edit: don't want to seem self inflicting. I'm here with my wife and baby. Don't want to Just leave her.

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are ministryideaz apostates?

by sneekyapostate in

are ministry ideaz book binders apostates cos its plastered all over the net haha?.

ministryideaz.com - meeting & service supply.

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berrygerry

Not sure if their banner ads show up when you're on Simon's site or not, but they do for me. (Occasionally do click-throughs - hope you get a couple of shekels each time.)

I used them years ago, and know a number of Dubs that use them. If accurate, their homebase is a bedroom community outside of Simon's city. (A touch of irony.)

Some have posted that they must be, not just non-Dubs, but, shudder, APOSTATES !!! ( https://sites.google.com/site/ministryideazareapostates/ )

No matter what, their product line is getting interesting.

'Imitate Jesus!' 2015-2016 Regional Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses

10

Game of Thrones - Shunning

by berrygerry in

i waited a week to avoid any spoilers.. last week's episode was harsh, to say the least.. a live burning-at-the-stake of a child to please the gods.. and yet, we have conventions taking place around the world - with bravos to those parents who sacrifice the emotional well-being of their children by shunning them.

clap-clap-clap.. what is worse, killing them outright, or the long, drawn-out emotional sacrifice demanded by the modern-day baal, gb 2.0?.

berrygerry

Witness My Fury 4 days ago
No, dont talk about the last episode, i havent seen it yet...

Can't wait much longer.

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The Governing Body and Modern Man's World How Do They Do It?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i mean how can these guys run a corporation and make good policies when they are so deluded and hide the fact from themselves and their readers?.

ok sure they got a legal department but they are all brain washed just like the gb, and these guys think that every decision they make is jehovah's come on they are so out of touch with reality how can they every make good policy that is truley good?

even when they are deceiving and coniving they are making blunder all over the place because they are old and deluded and full of shit..

berrygerry

Nube!

Not complicated!

Start your own.

Ingredients and recipe below.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-mason/start-your-own-cult_b_3999121.html

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Pioneers inviting to regional convention

by InquiryMan in

interestingly, jws in norway actually do invite people to attend convention in stockholm, even from the city of bod, some 1176 km away (driving distance 14 h 30 m away).. .

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berrygerry

Would I go to impress the sis on the right?

Ummm, YES.

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David Splane address bethelites

by rosesinbloom in

i did not write this piece.

i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

hope some of you enjoy it too.

berrygerry

Soon they will just right a new bible, not a new translation but a whole new bible.

Have they not done that already?

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David Splane address bethelites

by rosesinbloom in

i did not write this piece.

i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

hope some of you enjoy it too.

berrygerry

Unbelievable,

It is hard to imagine that they will putting out any new Watchtower Library CD's, or else they will be severely curtailed as to content.

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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow in

this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

so who is lorenz reibling?

berrygerry

I have done the timeline work - I have been researching this subject heavily for the past 4 or 5 years - and I think that bloodless surgery did not arise from the JWs' demand for treatment, that demand only paved the way for existing interests to expand into what the blood management field is today. The blood ban was the vehicle that propelled the bloodless field of medicine - the JWs were the guinea pigs for the research required to develop technology that has been described as "The Golden Standard of Care" - a standard that blood management societies want to implement globally.
Blood management societies that owe their existence to the JWs who founded the very first blood management society of its kind - the Society for the Advancement of Blood Management.

This thread would make a great movie. "God's Guinea Pigs"