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  sheep and goats

  by kj in

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  2. friends

  i've been "studying" with a nice jw lady, we've been discussing the "what god requires" booklet.

  we were reading about how very soon, jesus was going to start separating the sheep from the goats.

  i jumped right on that, asking, "so this is a future event, right?

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  I've been "studying" with a nice JW lady, we've been discussing the "What God Requires" booklet. We were reading about how very soon, Jesus was going to start separating the sheep from the goats. I jumped right on that, asking, "So this is a future event, right?" She had to do a double take, and say, "Yes, that is right." I know at one point, that the WT taught that the separating work was being done now. When did they change it to a future event? Can anybody tell me what issue of the WT it is in? Thanks.

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  Today, I'm Going To Bring The "Crisis of Conscience "Book To My Mother

  by minimus in

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  my mother has been expressing to us how she reluctantly is beginning to see that the organization indeed has some problems.

  she is starting to "feel" that things aren't right.

  this past thursday, they gave a "marking" talk for my daughter who hasn't attended a meeting in years.

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  I'm sorry, Minimus. That has got to be hard to have your mom talk to you like that. Continue to show her your unconditional love, the elders will show their true colors again soon enough. Your poor mom.

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  DFd/DAd persons and "apostate" literature

  by kj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can anyone tell me if associating with dfd/dad people or reading "apostate" literature is a disfellowshipping offense?

  is it one of those unwritten rules, or is there something written about it in the wt?

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  Thanks, Blondie. That was exactly what I was looking for. And thanks to everyone else for your quick response.

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  DFd/DAd persons and "apostate" literature

  by kj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can anyone tell me if associating with dfd/dad people or reading "apostate" literature is a disfellowshipping offense?

  is it one of those unwritten rules, or is there something written about it in the wt?

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  Can anyone tell me if associating with DFd/DAd people or reading "apostate" literature is a disfellowshipping offense? Is it one of those unwritten rules, or is there something written about it in the WT? Does anyone know which issue/date? Thanks in advance.

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  Time to tell my story

  by NoMoreMeetings in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my life story leaving jw's came out in the following newspaper article.

  thought i'd share it with all of you.. i was an elder for 8 years.

  for 2. left in 2002.. .

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  Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry about what happened to your son. I hope God will use you to help others escape the JWs.

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  Would you take "no" for an answer.

  by kwintestal in

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  2. friends

  it seems to me that there's a big difference between the "old-school" jw's and the "new-school" jw's when it comes to the door-to-door work.. i took "no" for an answer.

  someone didn't want to listen, that's fine.

  "have a good day then.

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  the reasoning book and other zombiefying materials..

  That couldn't be more true. Whenever I ask the JW lady that has been coming to visit me a question that she can't answer, the next week she'll bring me some photocopies from the good 'ol WT CD ROM. Why look for the answers when the WT will provide them for you?

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  My Mother's Being Announced in November As OFF The Pioneer List

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after 40 years of serving as a regular pioneer and being on the infirm list, the circuit overseer, the po and another elder told her today in a 30 min.

  conversation she was going to be announced as no longer pioneering.

  the co mostly talked about me, my wife and daughter.

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  I'm sorry they're treating your mother this way, but I'm glad she's got their number. They haven't fooled her into thinking they did her a favor or something. What a bunch of dicks.

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  Oct 15th WT View of The Third Heaven--What a Scream!

  by Mary in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, we all know the scripture where paul says "...i know a man in union with christ who, 14 years ago, was caught away to the third heaven.....whether in the body or apart from the body i do not know...he was caught away into paradise and heard unutterable words which it is not lawful or a man to speak.

  according to the october 15th watchtower, you wanna know what exactly this means?

  paragraph 9 says "....it would involve the christian congregation......when was that vision to be fulfilled?

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  How can anyone take this crap seriously?

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  Out of the mouth of babes

  by Jez in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after visiting her jw father and relatives, my daughter came home and stated that her uncle said, "churches..(tsk tsk) they do not allow questioning of any of their beliefs.

  " my daughter looked at him and stated, "how would you know, you have never been in one!

  " she said he did not know what to say.. at the meeting, they were all standing around talking and someone said, "wow, there was 188 at the meeting today!

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  High five, to you too, mom! It is great that you are helping her learn to think for herself. Thanks for sharing :-)

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  Should you believe in the trinity? Is Jesus Christ God Almighty?

  by ChrisCross in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was there ever a refutation written up on this brochure?

  i'm looking for something that examines all the sources and the credibility of the people they quote to supplement my research on this topic.

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  There is also a book called Why You Should Believe in the Trinity by Robert Bowman. He wrote it in direct response to the JW brochure.

  kj