Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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How long will Paradise remaineth? Does Genesis 8:22 give us some kind of inidication?

by I_love_Jeff in

watchtower 6/15/1953 pg 371 though their annual periods were not calculated to the fraction of the day, there was no mistaking the seasons of the year, since jehovah had said, while the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.gen.

although jehovah's witnesses believe that paradise earth will remain forever, why does there own watchtower library 2014 software state otherwise?.

original word: part of speech: substantive; adverb accusative; adverb.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Gensisi 8:22 is a quote from Borossus in the 280s BCE he quotes from the Epic of Gilgemesh likely in 1300 BCE... So I find the authority of this story bull s**t

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Wooly Mammoths

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

a jw came to my door a while back and used wooly mammoths as evidence for noah's flood.

he was a bit older, so i thought this must be some oddball out-of-date teaching of jehovah's witnesses.

i could remember something in the insight book about frozen mammoths, but not much else.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

When I was still very much a believer and in high school I took 3 clases on geology and realted... one of the sections was on the ice age... I always found this hard to fit into the bible then

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

My main issue is she knows I have doubts.... I have refused to tell her what they are until the time is right.

Meanwhile I dont want meetings, service etc in my life. I also hate praying to Jablooper at meals.

She doesnt drive so of I miss a meeting...she does... and gets mad at me about it.

So for me to exit fully is impossible almost.

I asked about confronting the elders for two reasons:

It is a subtle way to let her know my doubts

The so-called secret elder book says elders may address genuine doubters and such are not apostates..

As for the governing body questionI will simply quote Jackson and state that is Br. Jacksons staement under oath.

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Crazyguy I was but after advice from here not to I gave up... Also during our moht on vacation we drew closer together as a couple ... from a marriage that was fuctioning to a marriage thriving... so right now I have her trust... I need to replan as such... Now I plan to show the elders this... they will try to confirm all this and help me as their manuel says... but... well they are wrong.... when my wife sees the elders give upI' hoping plan A will work

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Beards

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have a beard.

i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.

i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I have a beard. I spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course. I grew a full beard now and with glasses I finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing I look like Gordan Freeman lol

But I dont plan to shave anytime soon.

1. Everyone EVEN WITNESSES liked my beard...on FB

2. F**k them

3. They claim the mythical Jesus had a beard so... why not me.

4. The condemation agaisnt beards are from 1968 and I suspect fictional conversation...

5. I want to see the poor moronic elders faces when I walk into the hall with a beard.

Now as a scientific person I feel a beard is n evolutionary leftover but since historically it has served men for milleniia I like it...

The WT has no offical argument aginst beards and elders in Europe have them

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but I had an idea last night. I know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.

Thus since my wife knows I have doubt s i could say: I want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree...

Of course I will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "So brothers... can you solve this conflict...?"

In this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs...

Meanwhile I will explain thatthe elders didn't help me... they were dumbfounded... thus maybe opening a window to science...

Any suggestions on this idea?

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Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster ... Yes it's a REAL church.

by SecretSlaveClass in

now this is a church an athiest would be really happy with.

hilarious!.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/flying_spaghetti_monster.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

This religion his 9 denominations... which one shold I follow.?..it's not a joke anymore when people break it up...

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What made you turn atheist or agnostic?

by LevelThePlayingField in

if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.

the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.

have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I can answer that.:

1. The bible stories I found out were borrowed from Babylonian and Greek stories

2. ERVs showing a common decent between other great apes and humans

3. Chromosome #2 showing the same as above.

4. Once the above 3 points were in place it was obvious.... we choke on our food, goosebumps, hair on our bodies, male nipples.... No sense if we were disigned.... all explained by evolution.

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The mistranslation of John 8.58

by Wonderment in

john 8.58 is one of those scriptures which translators often mis-translate.. i am aware this text is defended with passion either way by its advocates.

many insist the "i am" rendering found in many versions is correct.

others defend the "i have been" or "i was" readings of other versions.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The translators of the NWT were well aware of this.... they produced the Kingdom Interlinier which proves John * :58 as 'i am'. but on the right hand coloumn the NWT lies.

The Gospel of John makes Jesus the Logos and the light and thus part of YHWH....

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How confident are you about various so called facts?

by slimboyfat in

no facts about the world are absolutely certain.

that being the case i wonder how others would rank amd rate their confidence in various factual statements about the world.

i am going to rate my confidence in ten items of "knowledge" as a percentage.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

. The earth is a sphere rather than flat in shape. 99.9% Pictures from space....

2. Global warming is a real phenomenon of serious concern that is caused by human activities. 50% I have no doubt it's warming up. But I doubt humans are a major contributer. (Minor yes) We are springing back from the last ice age and also the world was warmer in the 900s no matter what Al Gore claims./

3. Life on Earth evolved its many forms through the process of natural selection. 99.9% Genetics prove that without a shadow of a doubt

4. The gospels are based on a real apocalyptic preacher called Jesus who lived in first century Palestine. 15% No go here. Jesus was invented partly by Philo in the The comcept of a Logos and partly by a break off from the Essenes cult in the concept of a cosmic savior.

5. J F Rutherford was a drunk who cheated on his wife with various women. 90% We have witnesses and i've seen a video.

6. Smoking causes lung cancer. 60% Yes it is a cause. But not every smoker will get it.

7. Men really walked on the moon. 80% Yes most likely. But I can't prove this 100% until a seperate group from NASA returns to the moon.

8. Consciousness survives death.50% Unprovable either way.

9. Moses wrote the Pentateuch.0% To much evidence against that also Moses was invented by Manetho

10. Dragons exists. 100$ Yes but not the mythological kind. Dinosaurs exist (existed)

11. Homeopathy is effective beyond placebo. 1% Yeah some water might help but thats it.

12. O J Simpson was innocent 40% I watched the trial. Either way the evidence rolled and with the prosecution making strupid vouches I used to say he was innocent. Not i'm leaning towards guilty but not completely.

13. Scotland will be an independent country within 20 years. 50% The've have a long time to do this already. Maybe

14. There will be a nuclear war sometime in the 21st century. 60% Maybe

15. The New Testament originally contained the divine name. 0% Half the new testament is Marcionite in orogin and thus YHWH was not the supreme god.

16. At least one of the presidents of the Watchtower was homosexual. 50% Maybe

17. The universe began in a Big Bang around 14 billion years ago. 90% Might be off a few points of millions of years but yes.

18. China is the country with the most people. 97 Yes but India will likely overtake it soon