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The Worst doctrine of JWs- Ressurection and Paradise

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

besides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the ot and nt and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.. first it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven.

second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or jeblooper's memory.

so don't greive.

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Those pictures in paradise... A person with an average wage on an average vacation could find those things... minus the wild aminals that are tame.. for that you need a zoo I guess.. Imean think about it the ressurection is evil..think of the marriage issue...

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Historicity of the Prophets

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

for many years i have sought to understand how the bible was put together.. thus my name on here.

i started out more or less in line with what many schoolars felt in both old and new testament studies and over the year my notes have flucuated with dates and probable authorship.

a few years ago i slid into minimalist or copenhagen school understanding of the texs but still retained a slight historicity of the prophets.

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The problem is pistolpete that Harry Potter claims to be fiction. The bible does not in fact Genesis-Kings is wirtten with a style of histories like Herotudus or others.

Some events in those books happened mostly in 2 Kings. This is confirmed in archeology which is why it is often hard for a post-christian society to reject the myth from the facts. Illiad has a history but is mostly myth, The bible has the same issue. An issue I find facisinaing and a deadly plague to JWs if they ever find it out,

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Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

by Anna Marina in

yup - person has done nothing wrong.

but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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I highly doubt anyone wants to talk to me from JW elders but if they ever do they need to come to my place!

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The Worst doctrine of JWs- Ressurection and Paradise

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

besides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the ot and nt and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.. first it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven.

second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or jeblooper's memory.

so don't greive.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Besides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the OT and NT and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day Zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.

First it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven

Second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or Jeblooper's memory. So don't greive. (More then a few days)

Third the paradise doctrine does nothing to help the world. Saw a documentary on Netflix about the world conditions.. forgort it's name but the old guy showed progress being made as well.. not by christians though!

Let me tell a sad story. A terrible story I knew a beutiful girl. In her late teens when I first met her. (Not my gf or anything... I was already married... She was just a family friend of my wife) Very nice and with a nice family (so I thought). She had mental issue though. Being in a country that was still a developing counry her times of mental breakdown were often laughed about by so-called friends (JWs) as 'water on the brain'.

The next time I saw the girl was in 2015 she had a breakdown as was suicidal. She was a pioneer. hmm...

I never saw her again. She killed herself in 2018 and on her facebook page I got the idea... die now... paaidse later. Her parents hardly grieved openly I found out.. her sisters grieved but were in ministry a week later preaching the very doctrine that killed her....in my opinion

Since the day I was filled not with greive be sheer hot anger and rage! I hated the ressurection and paradise doctrine since I mentally exited in 2012.. but 2018 filled me with rage. White hot anger!

I realized at that moment the wost dotrine of the WT might not be two witneses or blood tranfusions.. it might be hidden.. it might just be the cause of all the WT deaths.. the f**king ressurection doctrine. The blood transfusion is actually secondary. Think about it. With no rssurection doctrine who would die for it? Thus this ressuretion idea is the root.

And it goes futher. When I exited mentally in 2012.. I wasn't until 2019 that I became finally at ease with my own mortality. Seven years or horror with an issue that normal people deal with at their teen or twenties! (I escaped this through the philosophy of Daoism and balance)

Yet what about the child sex/2 witness?.. Yeah without paradise everyone would report and not wait for the 'new system'.

It's my anger that leads me to become more vocal as I am 4/5 faded. As Dawkins says: "The time has come to say enough is enough!"

No more can we tolerate dogma of 2500 years ago creeping into modern children's minds. We need to liquidate all religious systems and ban them 18 or under. I know.. wont happen now.. but 20 years.. oh yeah..

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Pete Dragon Referance to JWs

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

si had to check this out.

i was watching an old disney movie from my childhood in the early 80's.

the movie 'pete's dragon' was made in the late 70's i stopped however upon on scene.

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sI had to check this out. I was watching an old disney movie from my childhood in the early 80's. The movie 'Pete's Dragon' was made in the late 70's I stopped however upon on scene. I gasped when I watched it last night and had to rewind (It was one of those white Video tapes) and I was right! I was shocked! I mean how could anyone miss this referance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6MZ8nPm5s4

It's at 1.23 in. The hilarious con artist mentions 'Kingdom Hall' and how he was thrown out. (I doubt Jim Dale wasa JW so this is from the writers) I rewatch several times and asked my pimi wife to listen and she confirmed it said 'kingdom hall'.

The context of this song now becomes more screwed up however. A con arstist selling drnks as medicine... uh Jehovahs Witnesses? I bet however Antony Morris loves this though he can have medicine delivered that preforms miracles of healing. (BTW Red Buttons reminds me of Steven Lett lol)

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The Society and 1975.

by Lost in the fog in

stumbled upon this article - not that the wt society ever highlighted the date of 1975, but that was brothers running ahead... .

w68 8/15 pp.

494-501. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1968602#h=1:0 .

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I have sadly given many reasons the WT might push 2033-2034 as Armagedden.

1. It's 2000 years from 33 CE (Hosea 6:2) thus the anointed raptured in 2033 before Armagedden

2. 120 years from 1914 based on Gensis 6:3. (Jesus said "just as the days of Noah were so the presene of the son of man will be..")

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Finding a mate

by MissMary in

so here i am 44 yr old divorced and free to remarry jw sister....first time single since i was 19. but guess what no single brothers in my area.

i’ve tried those stupid jw dating sites and still no luck.

oh yes there are tons of single brothers, but guess what...they all expect a hot barbie to come running into their life.

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I am one that will pass on too, but not because of you. But because i'm married already lol. Seriously however when I believed that Jehovah's Witnesses had the truth one of the many things that bugged me was marriage and children.

A quick reading of Genesi shows Jehovah blessing marriage and encouraging it. In fact it was of prime importance! And Children too!

But in WT it is put simply discourage and those that do court and marry do so under EXTREME ***ing pressure!

I thought this was wrong the whole time. I didn't know then the book 'Children' that JF Ruthford wrote about not getting married or having children because Armaggedon was near. (90years ago) Yes type in children rutherford pdf I bet you will find it.

The WT HATES families in my opninon. How many articles did they make dissing marriage or children! Or endorsing singleness.It's vomit and sickness from a bunch of perverts with pillows (look up pillowgate on youtube)

If you want a happy family leave Jehivah's Witnesses and jon a social group like a hobby group or a volunteer group with like interests. I bet there is a guy waiting there

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Historicity of the Prophets

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

for many years i have sought to understand how the bible was put together.. thus my name on here.

i started out more or less in line with what many schoolars felt in both old and new testament studies and over the year my notes have flucuated with dates and probable authorship.

a few years ago i slid into minimalist or copenhagen school understanding of the texs but still retained a slight historicity of the prophets.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

For many years I have sought to understand how the bible was put together.. thus my name on here. I started out more or less in line with what many schoolars felt in both old and New Testament studies and over the year my notes have flucuated with dates and probable authorship. A few years ago I slid into minimalist or Copenhagen school understanding of the texs but still retained a slight historicity of the prophets. Recently in the last cuple of months however after corsponding with a researcher and much research reading the 17 prophetic OT books. I have sadly rejected all of them as authentic save on line at the end of Haggai where he anoints Zerubabbel. (seems like a Zorastrian offical anointing a governer)

Isaiah existed and we have his name in archeology but a scan of Isaiah 1-39 reveal purely late concerns from very late periods and Deuteronomist concerns primaritly. (25 -27 are weird but still later. 40-66 are out of the question here)

I used to figure Jeremiah might have some core preserved in his book due to the fact thjat the book is attributed to Baruch who was a historical figure. But sadly Jeremiah's words are 75% deuteronomist theology which places it very late. The rest is a mass of oracles mattching greek seers or historical narritives from Kings.

Amos and Hosea are fakes. Amos if we acdept his backstory could never have written and would have been laughed out of Israel had he delivered his saying. Given the proverbs of chapter 7-9 his writing are to be pucshed into a late date also (consistant with Platonian thought) Hosea is obssses with sex. If the guy existed he never wrote one sentance! He was to obsessed with sex! I mean be realistic and read chapter 4 or 5 of Hosea and find a verse that doesn't mention sex! No one from israel would have been proclaiming gloom and doom and then HAVING THEIR WRITING PRESERVED WHEN THE KINGDOM FELL and a lone discipile flees to Judah.

Sadly Ezekiel must be vomited out also. His theology os that of Leviticus and thus comes not form aan mythical exiled prophet who starts speaking on his 30th birthday and ends on his 50th. Whoever wrote Ezekiel and Leviticus should be ****ing ashamed of themselves anyway for their sick mind! The fact is the prophecy on chapter 38-39 point to a time when Israel is attacked by Selucids when Israel is under peace. Thus a 3rd century date must be assigned. (Some might argue a date after Simon Maccabee but for numerous reasons i've rejected this given that Ezekiel preceeded Daniel to the canon)

The end of all this is that 12 minor prophets are too convient and looks fishy. The three major prophets are all different theologies and attempt to give a historicity to Genesis-2 Kings.

Some will object and clam cetain texts such as Exodus 15 or Judges are previous to the exile. I totally agree Ps 45 is a sore thumb as to dating and so bloody obvious as to where it fits that we can all read it and congradulate Ahab and Jezebel lol.

Sadly however with the exception of the book of Kings very few truely historical details have come down to us fom Judah or Israel. The Hebrew Bible and especially the prophets must be viewed with skeptism.

When a ruling king (The Ptolomies) asks the Jews to give him a history in 273 BCE I believe it happened. And was quite complete with oracles and songs.

So when you sit in a Kingdom Hall (like anyone here ever does :P ) remember to bring illiad with you too :)

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Escaping The Watchtower Ep.10

by Christian Gutierrez in

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hey guys i just want to say that if there is anybody near or around vancouver island that wants to be interciewed on their jw experience, send me a message.

i am looking to make a possible final episode to this series.

it could be based on one persons story or the story of multiple people.

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Im from Van Isle but I am technically 'inactive' for five years an this keeps me somewhat 'safe' so an interview would be a problem lol. sorry

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Zoroaster spoke thus

by Doug Mason in

the following is from: cosmos, chaos and the world to come (pp.

222-224), norman cohn.

yale university press.

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Doug: For my book i'm writing I was wondering if you know any parallels between the book of Zoraster and Isiaah 40-66. (I know Is. 45:7 is a quote). I know ths is off topic. Sorry