Posts by HowTheBibleWasCreated

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How many here turned Athiest or did not and why??

by Witness 007 in

me i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.

if your still religious explain why..

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I tried to find archeology and other evidence for the bible. Ended up questioning it quickly which lead to a search for 100% proof for evolution. I found it and became an atheist in five minutes. It's taken over a decade to extract. As for an afterlife that has nothing to do with the bible or anything supernatural

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Refuting the Alleged Evidence of Jesus' Resurrection

by truth_b_known in

in the past few months there have been a few debates on this site over alleged evidence of the resurrection of jesus.

this can be a hot topic as most would agree that without the resurrection of jesus there would be no christianity.

i am not so sure of that, but i am more sure that dr. gary habermas' minimal facts approach to the resurrection has no evidentiary basis.. here is a 22 minute video on the topic.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Seabreeze Yeah philo was cousin to the Herods. In the early 30s he spent his time in the holy land. Now think of this. Passover. Where is Philo? In Jerusalem of course. Who is he with? Family. Where is Jesus taken in Luke 23? Who questions Jesus? Herod. What is Herod in Jerusalem for? Passover m who is in that room? I'll let you make conclusions

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Refuting the Alleged Evidence of Jesus' Resurrection

by truth_b_known in

in the past few months there have been a few debates on this site over alleged evidence of the resurrection of jesus.

this can be a hot topic as most would agree that without the resurrection of jesus there would be no christianity.

i am not so sure of that, but i am more sure that dr. gary habermas' minimal facts approach to the resurrection has no evidentiary basis.. here is a 22 minute video on the topic.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Not this dumb video again! Why do I have to debunk this video everytime I come to this forum!

1. A flat out lie is made that every schoolar accepts 1 Corinthians and Galatians as Pauline. You must mean fart erhman

2. The first half of 1 Corinthians 15 is a very late interpolation. Christian schoolars of the past have noted this

3. No one knows of Paul's letters before marcion parades them around 140

4. Alexander is a bad comparison since people of his own lifetime are prolific writers

5. How the hell do you try to date Galatians and 1 Corinthians... Oh wait I know Acts. Of course. Let's take a document that no one knows until the late second century to date works not known until the early second century. Ok....

6. Why not use a contemporary of Jesus l. Like Philo? Oh wait because the Jesus Philo knows is a heavenly logos. He was in the same room as Jesus in the gospels. Never mentioned him

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Enoch is not from the third century BCE. The dead sea scrolls date between 150bce and 70ce. The core of the book assumes the persucution under antiocus iv. Also a chunk of the book of Enoch is either second or third century ce a Christian interpolation.

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The first time we have references to Paul's letters are around 140 not 30.

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JWs don’t use the apocryphal, yet source them

by Anony Mous in

so a quick little note about a few things that i recently learned.

if you ever had the yellow book of bible stories, there was the story of enoch, also repeated in other watchtower publications, about the angels fathering giants and being a menace on earth.

now if you look at the nicean bible, which is the wtbts selection of the bible, it mentions enoch twice and only has a very brief passage about nephilim and ben elohim.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

The wt definitely uses other books. Take the pictures of Paul with a bald head and bushy eyebrows. That's taken from the acts of Paul and thecla

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New World Translation is not much different other translations

by Abraham1 in

key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

As I have said many times every single so-called change the NWT makes has been done by some other translation at some point. Colossians 1 might be the exception with the 'other' bit even there re reference bible has clear brackets. Jehovah in the NT been done by MANY translations. John 1:1 be modified by several others etc. Judges 19 change of 'my own house' to 'gods house' the latin Vulgate did that.

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Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

by DoubtingThomas in

i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I went from JW right to atheism because it was critical study of the bible and the facts of evolution that showed me there is no god. At least not a theistic god. I facepalm reading criss of conscience

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New World Translation is not much different other translations

by Abraham1 in

key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

I wasn't going to comment then I saw this nonsense: Jesus’ opening verse on the Sermon on the Mount was: “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” (matthew/5-3) Greek Test doesn’t allow it to be put it differently

Then blame other translations like the NT in modern English that render it that way. The nwt was not alone

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GB 2021 Update #10 - "get vaccinated"

by neat blue dog in

am the turd comes the closest to just coming right out and telling jws they have to do it.

he says, 'there's no need to worry, just keep doing what works: wear masks, wash your hands and get vaccinated when possible'.

the busybodies are going to be even more insufferable now than they have been.

HowTheBibleWasCreated

Apparently the wt Hass in this case decided to trust science. I worry about the anti vaxers on this board who do realize germ theory was proved 150 years ago. Like evolution but of course the WT can partition science it seems.