I will give the WT a bone here and admit the 1984 referance edition is excellent for the referances that show varients between the LXX Vg MS etc. I often use those referances.
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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I know I will be in the monority here being I'm an atheist but John 1:1 can be translated either way as Dr. Price has said many times.
I would place the gospel of John (and 1,2,3 John as well as early cores of the Pauline letters are Gnostic and would argue that the gospel of John though aknowledging the god of the Jews actually preaches that the Father of Jesus Christ is a higher God superior to YHWH
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That is actually ideal. Like the Black Death humanity will adapt though some will fall. However unlike the Black Death 1/3 of the world population will not die here.
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2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)
by Atlantis in2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .
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Me too please
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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Jeffro I believe the NWT is not really a translation at all. If you check you will find that four guys worked on the so-called translation and only Freddie Franz had a bit of knowledge in Greek (Not Hebrew)
I agree it's a rework of the ASV and keep in mind the WT published both the ASV and KJV at this time in the 1940's and 1950's . The ASV is a decent translation in my opinion and the bible I often use online the World English Bible is based on it. However the society did not translate so much as copy and update the ASV with a lexicon next to them and some cleaver imagination at certian points. At some places they fall short and it becomes appearant in Genesis 1 when they render spirit as actve force. I mean that's obviously doctrinaly based. Spirit or wind would have sufficed.
As for influence from the KJV \i haven't seen it but I wish they had used it. Somehow I always laugh inside when I read 'pisseth against the wall'
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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I did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic. To be honest the old NWT has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's NT which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.The truth is John 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation. Jehovah in the NT is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more YHWH.
So the OT?
Many have praised the Hebrew scripture of the NWT and to be honest they are 99% intact and somewhat accurate with a few notable exceptions it will now list which are HILARIOUS!
1. Is it really nessicary to preceed Elohim with {true}. I mean the expression 'the true god' is well used with witnesses.. it's all an addion.
2. Dungy idols. Now let's be honset. It's not in the text. Only a foold would do this.
3.I need to quote this story in 1 Samuel 14>>
Then Jonʹa·than said: “Here we are crossing over to the men, and let us expose ourselves to them. 9 If this is the way they should say to us, ‘Stand still until we make contact with YOU!’ we must then stand where we are, and we should not go on up to them......With that the two of them exposed themselves to the outpost of the Phi·lisʹtines. And the Phi·lisʹtines proceeded to say: “Here are the Hebrews coming out from the holes where they have hidden themselves.”+ 12 So the men of the outpost answered Jonʹa·than and his armor-bearer and said: “Come on up to us, and we will let YOU know a thing!”
I quote mined a bit but anyone of mature age is probably facepalming at the way this chapter is translated. I mean these vereses were changed in the 2013 NWT. But is the 1950's some pervert translated the text this way. He likely also translated Jeremiah 5: 8 which says:
Horses seized with sexual heat, having [strong] testicles, they have become. They neigh each one to the wife of his companion.
Huh? sorry I have checked the Hebrew text against a Lexicon as well as multiple translations and sadly there are no horses testicles in this verse. Unless... your a pervert.
But before I go to the last goofy verse in the OT of the NWT let's consider what the NT says happened to Jesus in the NWT 1984. Yep he was "Impaled". This is a vastly different punishment then cruxifiction. Oh yes the obvious conclusion a JW makes is it refers to nails in Jesus's hands. But sadly any normal reader would back off here. Yes these verses of Jesus be implaed were changed to in 2013.
Lastly the stupidiy of the translators is sen at Job 6:6. I mean really is this the signs of a moron? Most transaltions have trouble deciding if the proverb here is about a tastless egg white or a Mallow plant. I guess the NWT decided a mallow plant as they did in the 2013 NWT. But in the 1950-1984 era they chose this hilarous line:
Will tasteless things be eaten without salt,Or is there any taste in the slimy juice of marshmallow?
I'm stumped at this. The pervert and so-called translator has a name BTW Freddie Franz just so you know.
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2020-November-9--Donation Announcement! (as of 2020-10-13)
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Thnaks
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Anyone readu Judges 21?. see a battle had be fought. The Benjamites annilated save 600 men. But.. since Jeblooper didn't respond to their offering the Israelite dicided to allow the 600 guys of Benjamin to wait...
So the men of Israel counted everyone and foud Jabesh-Gilead din't turn up at the 'Kingdom Hal'.
So the 'elde's went and killed all the men and women and children for being absent for the meeeting. Or wait... some women were found. 400 I think.
So wife problem sovled. Killtheir husbands and children for not being at the Kingdom Hall but...
Ok 200 girls short so...
The Isrealite say. Hey we have a congregation get together each year. Kidnapp the daughters of the elders and rape them then marry them! (Sabine women song from seven brides needs to be inserted here lol)
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2020-November-9--Donation Announcement! (as of 2020-10-13)
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Me too please Atlantis
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The Worst doctrine of JWs- Ressurection and Paradise
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inbesides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the ot and nt and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.. first it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven.
second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or jeblooper's memory.
so don't greive.
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Those pictures in paradise... A person with an average wage on an average vacation could find those things... minus the wild aminals that are tame.. for that you need a zoo I guess.. Imean think about it the ressurection is evil..think of the marriage issue...