In at 40, found TTATT at 46...too many things don't add up. in the process of fading. Trying to show my wife the lies and contradictions. Hoping she will see the light.
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i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .
i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .
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In at 40, found TTATT at 46...too many things don't add up. in the process of fading. Trying to show my wife the lies and contradictions. Hoping she will see the light.
GTTM
i have a genuine question for the jw apologist.
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what is your scriptural justification for your unquestioning obedience to the governing body and your unwillingness to question their intepretation of scripture?.
Obedience to GB, we find what happens when we subject ourselves to earthly men and there doctrines. it is so sicking to hear sheeple at the meeting drone on and on about the GB, about the watchtower. I am in the process of fading..just need my wife to see the false doctrine. it will take time...but i have started studying just the bible with her and pointing out things. but not trying to cause a fight...I back off when i feel the resistance. Damn Witnesses!!!!!
In Matt 15: 9- 14 9+ It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.'" 10+ With that he called the crowd near and said to them: "Listen and get the sense of it: 11 Not what enters into [his] mouth defiles a man; but it is what proceeds out of [his] mouth that defiles a man."
12+ Then the disciples came up and said to him: "Do you know that the Pharisees stumbled at hearing what you said?" 13+ In reply he said: "Every plant that my heavenly Father did not plant will be uprooted. 14+ LET them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
new light: i hear all the time as the armageddon gets closer the light get's brighter.
where in the bible is this supported.
all i could fined is in.
Thanks for the comments and clarification.....I started to study 10 years ago and got baptized a couple of years later. I was missled and told i got baptized in the name of Jesus. Turns out I wasn't....after time and many assemblies it dawned on me from the baptismal talks that there is never a mention about being baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit, much less Jesus. turns out I was baptised to the Borg....as a broucher pedaler.
my eyes were opened a couple of years ago...so have not lost alot of time to it...also i have never changed my living style. Fact is, If the POS elders, CO and other are not paying my bills so Don't tell me how to live. I have not problems kicking someones ass, it doesn't bother my concience..i was brought up pretty rough area where I live.
So F&ck the Elders/ WT/ Borg! If I got DF'd people in the hall could kiss my A$$.
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new light: i hear all the time as the armageddon gets closer the light get's brighter.
where in the bible is this supported.
all i could fined is in.
New Light: I hear all the time as the Armageddon gets closer the light get's brighter. Where in the bible is this supported. All i could fined is in
Rev 20: 7-12
7+ Now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, Satan will be let loose out of his prison, 8+ and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Ma'gog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. 9+ And they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them. 10+ And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet [already were]; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
11+ And I saw a great white throne and the one seated on it. From before him the earth and the heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12+ And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened. But another scroll was opened; it is the scroll of life. And the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds
it clearly states new information with be revealed after the 1000 years. So how could new information be divulged before then? Is there a scripture that supports this New Light information?
How did all this New Light stuff start?
The sheeple are lead to the slaughter by the Borg....and the Elders don't care. And if elders actually now what they teach is wrong. The blood of those lives they are misleading is on there hands and they will be judged according to there deeds.
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ok in the effort of full disclosure, i have had a couple of drinks and recently experienced a circuit assembly and a bad experience with a co.. i don't know where to effing begin.
first of all the circuit assembly was a joke.
half the assembly was about pioneering and selling your soul to be a no-pay salesman for the borg.
Hi Splash, help me understand something...if they are saying Jesus is ruling and this is prior to the 1000 year reign. How does the Borg come up with this? is it in the bible? this just plain sucks. I go to the meeting because of my wife whom i love so much, i try to talk to her as much as possible without making waves. but it is a long process to deprogram someone who is brainwashed by these false teachings.
I just wish she would open her mind and eyes about all the contridications.
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we have a version with our commentary: http://youtu.be/yn17rj_pyd4.
we also have an un-cut, un-edited version of the audio: http://youtu.be/pihfucr38sw.
asl version: http://youtu.be/dd635pqpdle.
OMG, this guy is out there..did i hear at 09:55 to 10:15 when he was talking about info from GB, WT to take it with a grain of salt. I know i do this. what a wack job. He talks about Jesus..but how has the WT put Jesus in the congregations?
glad i know TTATT.
my daughter will be getting married this coming august.
she and her future husband are not jehovah's witnesses.
they will have a non-religious wedding ceremony.
What a disgrace to the teachings of Jesus. He showed love....how is the is love? hardcore JW's are pathetic excuses for humans.
matt 28:19 "go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit,.
i don't ever remember hearing at my baptism nor any other baptism of a jw.
the person giving the baptism talk or person doing the dunking saying that i/we are baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.. so i have come to the conclusion that my/our baptism's are not official.
When i got baptised, i also had in mind that i was dedicating my life to jehovah thru jesus with the holy spirit. As i go on through this religion "If you could call it that" i too see manipulation and mind control. When I think about it....is this what Jesus truely wanted Christianity to really be? NO.....but my deep love for my wife keeps me in. But, I will not let my kids get baptised in the JW's...i encourage free thinking, college, freindship from good people weither or not they are JW or worldly..but to honest with you. All the JW kids they have meet are disrespectful buttheads. We don't associate with them. just world people.
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i just wanted to openly apologize to anyone that i have ever offended on this website.
i have been thinking about this lately.
we all seem to go through the same various stages of learning ttatt, anger, sorrow, frustration, bible champion, agnostic, atheist, ect.
lot's of love D.D., Remember the CO is a loser who never made it in real life and has a tiny penis that causes him to pee on his hand everytime he tinkles. LOL....HOPE A CO READS THIS.
NEW LIGHT MY A$$
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matt 28:19 "go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit,.
i don't ever remember hearing at my baptism nor any other baptism of a jw.
the person giving the baptism talk or person doing the dunking saying that i/we are baptized in the name of the father, son and holy spirit.. so i have come to the conclusion that my/our baptism's are not official.
Wow, so interesting...peel back the layers and you see that their crap just gets deeper and deeper. IMHO i would be willing to bet that very few witness sheep actualy realize their baptism is a sham.
Thanks for that info blondie.
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