Its sickening sitting there listening to the comments on this article. Its like everyone is trying to one-up each other with GB worship. The resident old-timer elder even made a comment about how knorr saw that a change was needed and instituted the GB! Anyone who's read CoC knows just how false that is!
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November 2014 WT - Points out the fact that Knorr supported false teachings.
by objectivetruth in- it's amazing to track the confusion and stupidity contained in wt articles.
- in only one watchtower you can find multiple contradictory statements, and representations of truth that are simply lies made up on the fly.
- as an example the nov,15 2014 wt has the following quotes : -.
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I can't send any PM's thru this site.....
by Newly Enlightened inhi simon, i can't send any pm's thru the sites email system.. please help!.
kim.
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Becoming officially inactive
by All for show ini don't want to turn in my token time anymore.
it's only a few hours counting what we do with the kids.
i don't want it counted for their skewed statistics- or to just for the sake of doing it.
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From what I've read on here, you'll probably get a call from your service group overseer or the secretary requesting your time, and depending on how much "fear of man" is in 'em they may press you to make something up even if you're insistent that you've not done anything ("aww, surely you've had a few conversations about spiritual things with your kids that would add up to at least an hour?"). They might do this to avoid the lecture from the CO when he finds that they have a new inactive person upon his next visit.
Like I said, though, that's just based on what I've read on here. If it was me, I'd wait until the move, then never give the new elders any contact info (or inaccurate contact info) and stop reporting then. I guess a lot of it will depend on what your husband's situation is at that time, too. hopefully you'll be able to wake him up before the move and make a coordinated exodus from the cult.
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List your favorite, overused scripture by JW's!
by thedepressedsoul inthe title says it all.
list a scripture that is way over used.. it could be a scripture that the point is completely missed by how they use it.
it could also be one that they use so much it's as if the rest of the bible didn't exits.. my two favorite are proverbs 4:18 and ezekiel chapter 1 +a few verses.
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I think the aspect of the indoctrination that kept me mentally imprisoned for so long was the notion that you can't trust yourself. Usually they're pretty subtle about this, but sometimes they're pretty up front about it. So while it's not the most overused scripture, it's certainly up there:
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?
Feeling like your life would be better outside the cult? It's just your treacherous, desperate heart fooling you.
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It seems like a rare moment of honesty, though - the abstract asks how something (disfellowshipping) that brings so much pain can be for the good. Of course if they maintained that honesty they'd answer that it isn't for anyone's good. -
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Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.
by goingthruthemotions inso i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.
now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.
try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).
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Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction
by pixel infresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!
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29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.
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This is nuts. Do the cult leaders think that "worldly people" are going to be drawn into the Kingdom Hall because they are going to go out of their way to drive into the parking lot, get out and look in the window?
Yeah, that's why it seems fairly clear that this change is solely meant to increase resale value for when the property matures. They're in the final stages of the transition from a literature-based ponzi scheme to a real-estate based one.
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If you're bothered by god murdering innocent children, you must have a "critical heart"
by OneEyedJoe inthis week's book study contains this gem:.
the way in which the bible is written serves to test what is in our heart.
hebrews 4:12 says: the word [or, message] of god is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit .
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Can somebody give me the physical reference to what literature the OP's quotes are from?
Sorry, it was sloppy of me to leave that out. It was from "Draw Close To Jehovah" Chapter 18, paragraph 17. You can get it on the cult website.
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Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction
by pixel infresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!
(1 chron.
29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.
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OneEyedJoe
The LDC seminar thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar
Edit - wannabefree beat me to it!
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Upcoming meeting Re: KH Construction
by pixel infresh from the "press":to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: local design/construction department broadcastdear brothers:the work of constructing and maintaining theocratic facilities throughout the unitedstates branch territory is indeed great!
(1 chron.
29:1) with this in mind, we are pleased to informyou of a special meeting to be presented on saturday, january 31, 2015, at 3:00 p.m. easternstandard time (est) to all elders and circuit overseers in the united states branch territory.the meeting will be approximately two and a half hours in length and will includepresentations by members of the local design/construction department, the united statesbranch committee, the worldwide design/construction department, and a member of the governingbody.
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OneEyedJoe
Additionally, a new, dramatically different Kingdom Hall design will be released atthis meeting.
Read: A new design that is expected to yield better re-sale value will be released at this meeting.