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  Are we going to see a mass awakening?

  by kairos in

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  the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.

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  OneEyedJoe

  We need to use "thinking ability" and "discernment" to identify "the man speaking perverse things" and those "whose entire course is devious."

  Finally! Something from the WTS that I can agree with wholeheartedly!
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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

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  2. friends

  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  OneEyedJoe

  The child abuse comments start at 42 min. and that is where the lying and bullshitting starts.
  

  I'm not going to watch the video, but I just can't fathom that they got 42 minutes in without lying or bullshitting.

  They keep talking about child abuse, but every time they talk about it, I contend that they've only made the problem worse by creating a false sense of security. They claim that they do not have a pedophile problem and any reports otherwise are "apostate driven lies." Then They claim that they do everything they can to prevent it. Then they talk about how molesters are homosexuals or target kids online - making the average JW look outside the cult for any threats.

  All this is only going to increase the blind spot that JWs have for the pedophiles among them and if there's any result out of this it's going to be that more kids get abused.
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  No education. Not just to avoid critical thinking

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. bible

  i was listening to my brother in law talk about his job this week.

  he had a stable job for a long time.

  it was not without problems but it was there.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Really I can honestly say my analytical approach to this being a complete dangerous cult had zero to do with college. College doesn't make critical thinkers, but it does work well for them.
  

  I think the constant encouragement to apply critical thinking skills in college can subtly help wake up a JW. I agree that if someone's going to learn critical thinking, they're probably going to have it worked out before college, but when you're in an environment full of people questioning things, it can drive you to apply it elsewhere. I'm sure it had some degree of an impact on me - when I was in college was when I essentially became an atheist struggling to remain religious due to the phobia indoctrination.

  I hadn't thought about the idea that keeping people from getting good jobs makes them less likely to find good association outside the cult, but that makes perfect sense. I've seen it in my wife too - when she worked it was always around uneducated people and most of them were lazy and directionless and it's easy to get the idea that "this is just how worldly people are."

  Another element of college (especially when living on campus) that plays a huge factor is that it takes one out of the parentally-controlled routine. That routine supports the cult and makes it easier to stay indoctrinated, and challenging it can give someone the breathing room they need to wake up. The exposure to a diverse group of people from different backgrounds, often with pressure to be accepting of people's differences, also can make someone realize that there are good people out there that have valid reasons for not being a cultist and you know will never join up - makes you question the cult doctrine about non-JWs dying at armageddon.
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  July Abuse Rant

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  tm3 is back!!

  july broadcast rant on child abuse.

  http://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Couldn't make myself watch the cartoon - but I'm guessing that they used it to instill the phobia of worldy people?

  I love how he can take literally any topic and somehow turn it homophobic. As if a man molesting a male child has anything remotely to do with homosexuality. Bigot.

  As usual, it's just a lot of talk with nothing to back it up.
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  RC musings - my impressions

  by Doubting Bro in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i went to the rc this past weekend and have a few observations:.

  1 - use of videos - most parts had some sort of video prop.

  they ranged from awkward (an example was on friday where they showed scenes of nature without a real purpose other than god made this) to very well done.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Number of baptisms is quite low. I'm interested to see how that goes this year - I'm predicting a pretty big drop off after last year between the disappointment of 2014 coming and going and I suspect we'll be correcting for a slight increase in baptisms from the international conventions last year. I'm sure there are many that would've otherwise waited to get baptized but only did it because it was such a big event.
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  How to question

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. tech-support

  hi sorry but could anyone tell me how to highlight parts of an op when posting it within my reply please?

  thank you

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  OneEyedJoe

  Hi sorry but could anyone tell me how to highlight parts of an OP when posting it within my reply please? Thank you
  

  If you're trying to do what I just did, you have to copy/paste the reply, and highlight and click the " button on the toolbar.
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  Governing Body TV

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, the holy, holy, holy governing body(tm) are on tv and very much to be worshipped (like rock stars).. do you think there will come a time when the jws won't have public talks (as an example), and rely totally on the tele evengelism from the gb?

  i say this because a public speaker used to be offered travelling expenses when visiting a different kingdom hell.

  either the popes will stop this, it already has been stopped.

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  OneEyedJoe

  It's widely expected both on here and by jws I've heard discuss it that it's only a matter of time before one public talk a month will be agb member on TV.
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  Manicheism of the WTBTS

  by coalize in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think one of the more evil trick of the wtbts is their manicheism!.

  on a large bunch of subjects, they wants the fellow followers to believe that in a given situation, it is only possible to take two choice, of course, diametrically opposite.

  and of course, you have the good choice and the bad choice.. of course, nothing is more wrong than that!

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  OneEyedJoe

  It's commonly called black-and-white thinking and is a facet of every cult. Either you're with us or you're against us.
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  Do you ever feel strangely drawn towards Conspiracy Theories?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after mentally awakening to the idea that jws don't have the truth i strangely found myself delving into all encompassing conspiracy theories.

  not that i believed them but something about them seemed quite fascinating.

  i was especially drawn to the idea of a new world order/one world government.

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  OneEyedJoe

  I read about a study not too long ago where participants would be asked to answer some simple math questions, then look at a screen with static for some period of time. For half the participants their answers on the math questions were immediately given feedback as being correct or incorrect at random, whereas the other half didn't have the questions graded. The group that had their questions graded randomly (i.e. they'd get the answers correct since they're simple questions, but they'd randomly be told that they were wrong) were much more likely to see patterns in the static.

  The interpretation of this is that the more out of control your life feels, the more likely you are to see patterns in random data, and that's basically what most conspiracy theories are. It makes sense, then, that those who are leaving a cult will have a little more predisposition to being drawn to them.
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  WTS Does Help People

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  somewhat ironically with respect to timing, i read the post below just after reading a quite interesting documentary.http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/356320001/ran-into-some-jws-but-this-time-did-teaching-x.

  "but in anycase, i thought on it a few days and decided (haven't told her yet) that i have no interest in destroying her faith.

  her life has been a total train wreck and now she is sober(she has been in and out of that and jws my entire life), in a happy relationship and has a good job.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Yes, sometimes people quit doing drugs or otherwise "clean up their life" when they become JWs. However, there are plenty of organizations out there that could provide the same assistance without subjecting them to phobia indoctrination, separation from family and society in general, and enslaving them to work for the interests of a publishing/real-estate company.

  I can understand a hesitation to destroy someone's faith if becoming a JW has helped them in some way, but I would never recommend that anyone, no matter how dire their situation, become a JW. There's always a better alternative. In light of this, I would say that the harm they do is in no way justified by the small amount of "good" that comes from the cult.