The 144,000 club! Lol! I'm so using that when I "officially"find out about this
OneEyedJoe
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Nimrod: Fact or fiction
by dugout innimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.
god confused their lauguges?.
sounds quite comical when you think about it.
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OneEyedJoe
So I try to understand and make sense of the way God does things.
I think this is a large part of the problem...when faced with the inadequecies of a religious text, those that hold that text as holy always try to "make sense" of it - i.e. rationalize/justify it. The god of the hebrew scriptures was an unmitigated asshole, but the capability of humans to rationalize away the flaws in themselves, their beliefs, and those that they love knows no bounds.
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Nimrod: Fact or fiction
by dugout innimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.
god confused their lauguges?.
sounds quite comical when you think about it.
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OneEyedJoe
What he didnt want them to accomplish was stay there and grow.
He wanted them to grow throughout the earth
But they most certainly would have spread though the entire earth without him screwing with their languages. If that's not the case, how do you explain spanish-speaking people in the americas? How do you explain english-speaking people in the US and canada (and all over the world, for that matter)? People are going to spread out and explore regardless. Did god really need to act to cause people to spread out, or was he just impatient and didn't want to wait another couple centuries? Why was it so urgent that he cause people to spread out right then?
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How Much Drinking Is Too Much?
by minimus ini have seen that some say if a man has 3 beers per day or a woman has 2 glasses of wine per day, that they may have .
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OneEyedJoe
I do think some people look at any alcohol consumption means you have a problem.
I know a few people like this. They all have one thing in common - they don't like the taste of alcohol. To them the only feasible reason to drink is to get drunk, so any drinking means you have a problem.
I, on the other hand, weep for those who can't appreciate a good glass of scotch. They know not what they're missing.
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What does the building of Warwick HQ have to do with the Society's expectation of the end?
by Apognophos inthis topic is a couple years late, but i just wanted to get this off my chest.
i don't understand why people say that the society starting a project that won't finish until 2017 means that the end can't come until then, or that they don't expect the end before then.
this isn't a very logical line of thought.
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OneEyedJoe
Yeah, when people joke about the apparent lack of confidence in how imminent armageddon is based on their plans that go well into the future, I don't think they actually mean it that way. It's more of a dig at the hipocracy of it all. If I were to personally go and start work on some project that couldn't possibly be completed in 10 years, I have no doubt that I would recieve rampant criticism from everyone in the congregation because of my apparent lack of confidence in how soon armageddon would be. But when the GB does it, it's evidence of how fast god's chariot moves!
They constantly print material that discourages planning for the future, but they're constantly planning for the future...
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Nimrod: Fact or fiction
by dugout innimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.
god confused their lauguges?.
sounds quite comical when you think about it.
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OneEyedJoe
It is pretty obvious he wanted them to scatter and populate the earth.
We must not be reading the same passage...to me it's pretty obvious that he didn't want them to achieve what they'd be able to with a common tounge.
Nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them -> let's confuse their language.
The scattering that this (alledgedly) caused was incedental.
But whatever. It really doesn't matter, because either way the account is demonstrably false on many levels.
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How Much Drinking Is Too Much?
by minimus ini have seen that some say if a man has 3 beers per day or a woman has 2 glasses of wine per day, that they may have .
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OneEyedJoe
I think some people get a little fanatical about what constitutes alcoholism. I'll go through periods where I'll have 3-4 drinks a night for a couple weeks, and sometimes I won't have any for a long strech. For me, it's no different than how I'll sometimes crave pizza for a couple days in a row, but sometimes I don't feel like it for a long stretch.
I think some of the difference has to do with what you get out of drinking. I drink because it tastes good, but some people will drink anything they can get their hands on just to get drunk. Sometimes I'm in the mood for a drink, but I've run out of the particular scotch I was in the mood for, and I end up not drinking anything (despite having an otherwise fully stocked bar). I have no interest in medication to make me drink less...when I want to drink less, I just drink less. Sometimes I stop drinking for a while to lose weight, but I definitely miss the pizza more than the drink when I do that.
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Nimrod: Fact or fiction
by dugout innimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.
god confused their lauguges?.
sounds quite comical when you think about it.
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OneEyedJoe
It seems to me that you have to read that with the pre-concieved notion that god had a just reason for confusing the languages to arrive at that conclusion. God said these guys can do whatever they set their mind to, we need to confuse their languages. Unless god speaks in non-sequiter, that's a pretty clear statement of the problem followed by the solution.
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Nimrod: Fact or fiction
by dugout innimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.
god confused their lauguges?.
sounds quite comical when you think about it.
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OneEyedJoe
If it is true, it could be that God wanted the people to spread out and fill
the earth and not congregate in the middle east.
Confusing the languages would facilitate that.
If that's the case, why does the bible misrepresent god's reason for doing it? The bible is pretty clear that god confused the languages in order to limit their capabilities.
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SAD HOLY SPIRIT ILLUSTRATION
by GreenhornChristian injust got an email from elder sharing illustration from assembly.
the holy spirit does not seem to be in control as it supposedly was in the 1st century.
it's just lube now.
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OneEyedJoe
Reminds me of a talk by the CO a while back in which he asserted that HS "flows" to us from the GB down through the organization, to each of us in the congregations. I believe a comparison was made to the roman aqueducts. He said that we needed to make sure that our thinking was in line with the organization because we didn't want to "block the flow" of the HS. I was still mentally in at the time of the talk, and now that I'm typing this up, i think it was possibly one of the most culty talks ever. Completely removed Jesus from the equation, and the GB/organization are now in charge of supplying holy spirit.