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  The emptiness of science may explain the rise of fundamentalism...

  by cognisonance in

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  neurophilosopher, thomas metzinger says in his book:.

  the ego tunnel: thescience of the mind and the myth of the self.

  the ego evolved as an instrument in social cognition, and one of its greatest functional advantages was that it allowed us to read the minds of other animals or conspecifics and then to deceive them.

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  OneEyedJoe

  The appeal to consequences (if we evolved/there's no god, then my life has no meaning) seems to be pretty effective at keeping people stuck in silly belief systems, or driving them further in when they feel threatened.

  The other day I was bored at the KH and skimmed through the KM.  There was a sample presentation for one of the brochures on how life began or whatever and the presentation essentially followed this formula.  Ask what the HH believes, read a quote about how empty life is for evolutionists and then explain to them that if they'll believe in fairy tales in the face of all evidence they can be happier.
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  Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  found this on youtube.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Very good find. This JW has been struggling a lot during his time in the WT and never really felt comfortable in FS. He has known something was up for a while but probably could not put his finger on it.

  I hope he is happier now and out of WT.

  If I remember correctly from the previous thread (tried in vain to find it) he was fully awake to TTATT (thus why he'd think to record this conversation) and working on his exit.  
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  2015 Regional Convention Theme - unofficial-

  by WatchTower87 in

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  news about 2015 regional convention theme?.

  list of my preview:.

  - the end is at hand.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Lovingly give to Jehovah - 2 Kings 12:4

  We may have a winner.  I can totally see them filling 3 days on that topic.
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  How to reply to- "just wait on Jehovah".

  by runForever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all you have to say is "who says jehovah is not using me right now?

  " something to that effect.. if they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out amos nipper of figs.

  and if they say "do you think you're a prophet?

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  OneEyedJoe

  Are you serious? Does the fact that a Catholic is willing to overlook the faults in his own religion make it right for a Jehovah's Witness to ignore the faults in his own religion?

  
  

  My point was that this effectively shows their hypocrisy - an unwillingness to act on evidence that they don't have the truth, but they won't recognize the validity of the same excuse used by someone of another faith.
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  OneEyedJoe

  I'm currently being shunned by one of my best jw friends, because he's DF'd.  It's so sad to see the power weilded by this cult and the mental prison it puts people in.
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  The Evolution of the Human Eye

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
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  enjoy this informative 5 minute video that explains very simply how the human eye has evolved over millions of years.

  notice how each of the steps on the path to our complex eyes can be found among extant living creatures.. it may whet your appetite to research lots more details that have been discovered in recent years.. please remember that natural selection is not about random chance.. .... .

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  OneEyedJoe

  But even Darwin admitted that it was absurd in the highest degree to think that the eye could've evolved through natural processes!

  Thanks for sharing!
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  Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
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  found this on youtube.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Thanks.  

  That scripture actually always bothered me when it came to a lot of things that JWs did.  The other one that always bothered me regarding time reports was the bit where David took a census of his army and god killed a bunch of people as a result (that one also bothered me since David had done the crime, but it was other people that god punished, but that's neither here nor there).

  This was a good video for showing just how much control the cult will try to exert, and how little room there is for individual conscience.  The proper reaction from the elders would've been to say something like "well, ok if it bothers your conscience then you certainly shouldn't do it." and let that be that.
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  Jehovah's Witness Elders Question A Brother For Not Turning In Field Service Time

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found this on youtube.

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  OneEyedJoe

  Can't watch right now, but is this the same one that was posted a while ago - guy says he's not turning in time anymore because (primarily) of the scripture about not praying in the streets like the pharisees do because they're getting their reward in full?

  
  
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  Am I going crazy?

  by HappyDad in

  1. watchtower
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  am i going nuts or am i just pissed off?

  there are so many posters who use abbreviations in their posts and so many of us have been out for years.

  the borg constantly changes everything from beliefs to organizational tactics, so those like me don't have a clue to what you are referring to.

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  OneEyedJoe

  For not native English speaking people it might be good to explain what 'dub' means (took me months before I found out where it came from, the English pronounciation of the 'W', in 'JW", 'double U' abbreviated to 'dub'. That's correct, isn't it?).

  And 'borg'... I don't know what it exactly means. It obviously refers to 'org', but what's the definition?

  the dub thing is so easy to take for granted.  I've heard it from JWs quite frequently, even.

  borg is a reference to star trek - the Borg is an alien race that is basically a bunch of drones that just do what the collective intelligence tells them.  Their only reason for existing is to "assimilate" other species into the group.  Pretty decent metaphor for the JW cult.
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  How to reply to- "just wait on Jehovah".

  by runForever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all you have to say is "who says jehovah is not using me right now?

  " something to that effect.. if they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out amos nipper of figs.

  and if they say "do you think you're a prophet?

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  OneEyedJoe

  I looked one poster's comments here (I can't take credit for this, but don't remember who said it first) who said:

  If you found a Catholic in service and exhaustively showed him from the Bible all the things that were wrong with the Catholic church, only to have him say "I'm just going to have to wait on Jesus to fix things" what do you day to that?