Posts by frankiespeakin

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Who Will Be The Next Governing Body Member To Defect Like Raymond Franz? I Think Samuel Herd Might Be A Prospect.

by frankiespeakin in

not really, it could anyone of those guys who shows a sign of humaness/compassion and regret and go on exposing them all to the media worse than ray franz ever could have.

yes i know this may be wishful thinking/computing on my part but i feel it is a harmless indugence or may be it is just my deep unconscious foretelling a likely scenerio.. and it is good to create a distrust among these guys each one trying to beat the other to jump ship because thier unconscious is giving them fits to get the hell out when the getting is good.

maybe even report their fellow gbs to the authorities to be granted clemency or something.

frankiespeakin

Not really, it could anyone of those guys who shows a sign of humaness/compassion and regret and go on exposing them all to the media worse than Ray Franz ever could have. Yes I know this may be wishful thinking/computing on my part but I feel it is a harmless indugence or may be it is just my deep unconscious foretelling a likely scenerio.

And it is good to create a distrust among these guys each one trying to beat the other to jump ship because thier unconscious is giving them fits to get the hell out when the getting is good. Maybe even report their fellow GBs to the authorities to be granted clemency or something. (just dreaming and fantasising my life away here).

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How The Governing Body's Jealous Imaginary Friend/Corporation Sock Puppet Is Really Screwing Up Their Decision Making Capacity As CEOs Of The Watchtower Corporation

by frankiespeakin in

look at the recent videos that this bunch of old out of touch with reality governing body has spent time and money(corporation assets) on.

telling the deaf how disqusting jehovah finds looking at you masterbate(clearly a sign of some sort of childish magical thinking) and the one where they throw a little tots gift toy in the garbage because jehovah(corporation's sock puppet) don't like magic, making the the poor kid feel like he will shrivel up and die of old age like adam & eve did at 900+ years old, if he don't hurry up and get rid of that cheap plastic wizzard toy that might perhaps be demonized or something.. i'm telling you guy these guys are trapped into making bad decision because of this imaginary friend.

expect much more in the way of infantile decision making from these delusional individuals.

frankiespeakin

It is ironic that all this commotion over sexual repressions have turned this guys into hater's of their own shadow(Jungian)

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How Will The Governing Body Decide Which Kingdom Hall Properties To Sell First When They Need Cash To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

by frankiespeakin in

well i think it is safe to say that when push comes to shove and they need money the governing body will start selling these buildings.

now maybe this new pledgeing money on a regular monthly basis and robbing the congregation's of their bank accounts that are higher than three month running cost might forestall the sale of kingdom halls in the immediate future probably or most likely.. but when the going get tuff they will be selling them right out from under the publishers who paid for them.

this will be tramatic to many when this occures, any way word will spread no matter how much they try to stop it.

frankiespeakin

So say we were to do a little amateuristic Psychoanalysis of the Governing Body's profile and see what forces play in the choice in selling off Kingdom Halls and robbing the Congregation's till?

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How Will The Governing Body Decide Which Kingdom Hall Properties To Sell First When They Need Cash To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

by frankiespeakin in

well i think it is safe to say that when push comes to shove and they need money the governing body will start selling these buildings.

now maybe this new pledgeing money on a regular monthly basis and robbing the congregation's of their bank accounts that are higher than three month running cost might forestall the sale of kingdom halls in the immediate future probably or most likely.. but when the going get tuff they will be selling them right out from under the publishers who paid for them.

this will be tramatic to many when this occures, any way word will spread no matter how much they try to stop it.

frankiespeakin

I won't be disappointed at anything because I have no particular scenerio I pin my hopes on, as I recognize the folly of wishful thinking and don't indulge in it often, maybe a little fantasising about what is underneath a woman's dress or pants and maybe some wishful thinking that I'm her stud man that she just wants to jump on, but other than that I try to stay away from it.

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How Will The Governing Body Decide Which Kingdom Hall Properties To Sell First When They Need Cash To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

by frankiespeakin in

well i think it is safe to say that when push comes to shove and they need money the governing body will start selling these buildings.

now maybe this new pledgeing money on a regular monthly basis and robbing the congregation's of their bank accounts that are higher than three month running cost might forestall the sale of kingdom halls in the immediate future probably or most likely.. but when the going get tuff they will be selling them right out from under the publishers who paid for them.

this will be tramatic to many when this occures, any way word will spread no matter how much they try to stop it.

frankiespeakin

With the $Billion$ from real estate sales in Brooklyn, and now the $100s of millions sent in from Cong savings accounts, I'd say they are well set for a long time.

You may be right, but one begs to ask the question: why did they rob the congregation's saving's accounts thru the capitalization of being God's Faithful and Discreet Slave and requesting a resolution(which can't be disobeyed), for the turning over all savings over 3 months of operating cost, to the WT Corporation and those tacky pledges for money on a monthly basis? This is an unprecedented move by the GB, why now?

They must realize that this is going to eventually cause indignation and have a reverse trend, causeing many to stop contributing. So why are they willing do this now as opposed to former days? What prompts such drastic measures Now?

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Saturday Evening Post 1940 - JW's Make Hate a Religion

by clarity in

great bit of history for those still researching.. .

http://www.catholic-forum.com/members/popestleo/armageddoninc.html.

clarity.

frankiespeakin

That was some good writting!

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How Will The Governing Body Decide Which Kingdom Hall Properties To Sell First When They Need Cash To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

by frankiespeakin in

well i think it is safe to say that when push comes to shove and they need money the governing body will start selling these buildings.

now maybe this new pledgeing money on a regular monthly basis and robbing the congregation's of their bank accounts that are higher than three month running cost might forestall the sale of kingdom halls in the immediate future probably or most likely.. but when the going get tuff they will be selling them right out from under the publishers who paid for them.

this will be tramatic to many when this occures, any way word will spread no matter how much they try to stop it.

frankiespeakin

I also feel that the WT Corporation has been expanding in the past(pre1980s) and useing the generated cash flow to purchase more building and not investing that much of a percentage in stocks, and what not, and now because a down turn in thier printing business and unable to sustain a profit for perhaps decades they are selling a lot of their printing factories(also:selling printing presses for what they can get for scrap metal) and other real estate like Kingdom Halls to make the books balance(which BTW we are not privy to).

And now they have every thing in place for a massive sell off if needed to balance the books in the future.

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How Will The Governing Body Decide Which Kingdom Hall Properties To Sell First When They Need Cash To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

by frankiespeakin in

well i think it is safe to say that when push comes to shove and they need money the governing body will start selling these buildings.

now maybe this new pledgeing money on a regular monthly basis and robbing the congregation's of their bank accounts that are higher than three month running cost might forestall the sale of kingdom halls in the immediate future probably or most likely.. but when the going get tuff they will be selling them right out from under the publishers who paid for them.

this will be tramatic to many when this occures, any way word will spread no matter how much they try to stop it.

frankiespeakin

I was thinking this $200,000,000 for expenses to be the equivilance of the cost for printing 2 billion cheap 16 page magazines($.10 each if not less)per year) which would come out to:83,333,333 each issue(24x83,333,333=2billionx.01=$200,000,000). We all know they don't print this volume but I use the figures to show that no doubt the 200 million dollar figure for careing for the full time slave labor, may be off quite abit especially now since they have laid off over a thousand Bethelites and District Overseers, Circuit Overseers, and closed a number of branches.

With all the cut backs and retiring those who got old in the full time service of the WT corporation and giving them essentially no retirement benifit and forced to rely on the charity of the rank and file to get life's neccessities, this should lower this questionable 200,000,000 dollar figure considerably.

But in the final analysis we don't have any trusty figures to speak of because the religious nonprofits(non-prophet or non-prophetic or both in the WT corporation's case) don't have to file taxes and are not required to be transparent as to what they do with their otherwise taxiable assets. This in turn leaves room only for speculation with no hard facts to go on,to do a good analysis.

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VERY CONFIDENTIAL LETTER - Child abuse 10/01/2012

by WatchTower87 in

confidential letter child abuse http://adf.ly/auxbu.

to all bodies of elders.

the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

frankiespeakin

Destroy the incriminating evidence is the first paragraph of this letter. $28,000,000 lawsuit in Fremont, California that is in apeals no doubt forces the Governing Bodys hand in this one not protect the children.

Dear Brothers:

1. This letter updates the letters to all bodies of elders regarding child abuse dated August 1, 1995; March 14, 1997; July 20, 1998; April 1, 2004; June 5, 2006; and May 24, 2010. Those letters should be removed from the congregation permanent file of policy letters and be destroyed. No one should keep originals or copies of any of those letters.

But as usually the Governing Body is very sloppy and too late the paper trail already exists. They are a dollar short and more than a day late on this one and now they are trying to minimize the damage, but it is too late.

2. Additionally, much fine direction has been included in the Shepherding textbook. Thus, elders should first consult the Shepherding textbook and review the Scriptural principles in-volved. They should thereafter study the additional points outlined in this letter. As you review this letter, please note that paragraphs 3-7 set forth legal concerns regarding accusations of child abuse. Paragraphs 8-20 set forth congregational concerns. This letter should be carefully consulted any-time a matter involving child abuse arises.

The GB give themselves a nice pat on the back on information given to elders in the past on this matter but fail to mention their past mistakes which is a form of denial, and add this to the fact that they think they are running God's earthly Organizaton, delusional as well not a very good cause for confidence. In other words

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How Will The Governing Body Decide Which Kingdom Hall Properties To Sell First When They Need Cash To Pay Child Molestation Lawsuits?

by frankiespeakin in

well i think it is safe to say that when push comes to shove and they need money the governing body will start selling these buildings.

now maybe this new pledgeing money on a regular monthly basis and robbing the congregation's of their bank accounts that are higher than three month running cost might forestall the sale of kingdom halls in the immediate future probably or most likely.. but when the going get tuff they will be selling them right out from under the publishers who paid for them.

this will be tramatic to many when this occures, any way word will spread no matter how much they try to stop it.

frankiespeakin

Can you please tell me where you got your information?

@frankiespeakin there were and are no losses. Look for example at the amount they spend on in
caring for special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers in their field service
assignments each year. In 2013 alone it was 200 Million dollars and every year this amount is increasing.

Is this $200 million expense for the above verifiable?

Each year the number of publishers is growing, the number of congregations is growing, the number of biblestudents is growing , the number of languages in which they print stuff is growing. Thats a lot of growing. This new arrangement to fund the building of Kingdom and Assembly halls around the world is a guarentee for future growth. They never made more money in their entire existence then they do now and will do from now on.

I'm thinking these growth indicators pubs, congregations, BS, and the like are probably questionable and just like everything else the Governing Body puts in print about their Organization/God's Earthly Organization it has a biased slant which is used to presume that the Watchtower Corporation is being blessed and supported by Jehovah himself. In other words they will fudge figures to suit their needs and get more money from the rank and file.

It would be nice if they had a few billion $, that way they can pay out to every Child Molestion Lawsuit who was put in harms way by their reckless policies. And from the news we see that there are many such cases already and more to come.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/253934/1/Candace-Conti-v-Watchtower-Society-June-3-2013-Respondents-Brief-prepared-by-Rick-Simons-A136641#.U43tivldX_k

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/230399/1/Has-anyone-heard-of-Secret-Disfellowshipping-by-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Menlo-Park-Ca-Congregation-Update#.U43twvldX_k