oh...my...god.... i can't.. well, i am officially done trying to explain things to them.
they talk in circles, and their excuse for everything is "imperfect men".
imperfect men!.
Garrett,
Take it easy on yourself. My wife whom I live with and have a great life with will not listen to common sense regarding this cult. This indoctrination runs so deep. You have ZERO chance at convincing most dubs. Especially if u r dealing with elders. In my case I have learned to slow down and play the long game.
this is jim jeffries.
bear in mind that he's performing to an american audience in boston.
his routine does contain south strong language.. https://youtu.be/jl--yvnni0i.
is it just me or does anyone else see more newbies joining this site this past year and especially in the last few months .. we would love to welcome you with genuine friendship ,support ,encouragement ,a place to vent ,and not judge you.. you have the freedom to express whatever view you like and you won`t be kicked off the board.. and to learn more about the "truth" about the truth , you will not hear at a kingdom hall .. smiddy.
it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
with satan's media and satan's internet the odds seem to be in his favor,while jehovah's earthly organization with all these multi-million dollar lawsuits waiting to be settled in or out of court it.. it seems that satan's multi-organization can claim the high moral ground while jehovah's earthly organization is left holding the bag full(in the thousands 23,000?
) of anonymous child molesters just waiting for another victim and more lawsuits in the making.
looks like a victory for satan demoting jehovah's organization to the shit can file of ancient history.. for a hundred years it looked like jehovah's organization was going to keep going strong then jehovah caused so many wrong dates for when the end of the world was coming and now with the invention of the internet where these big problems with jehovah can be aired in public seems to cast a spell of doom over jehovah causing him to hate to see tight pants on men and women and child like wizard toys and deaf people mastering the art of baiting ..
Irish
whats wrong with discussing the possibility? In the past when people got DFed they usually were still indoctrinated. That's no longer true. These ones now learn TTATT which changes everything. The Internet is the great equalizer. It may not end the Borg but you better believe that it will bloody it up real good.
yes, today is the forum's 15th birthday!.
i never thought for one moment that it would survive this long or have so many people post so many great subjects over the years.. it is still humbling when i get pm's or emails from people expressing how the site has helped them and of course thanks goes to all the posters who have shared their experiences and make helpful and supportive comments to others who are in the sometimes difficult process of learning the real truth about 'the truth'.. the site has gone through several different incarnations over the last 15 years running on different platforms, different databases and different hosts but we've been able to keep all the old topics.
the current site is still being developed and i'm hoping to push another major upgrade soon.. i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.. until then, here's the the next 15 years!
I love the fact that the old posts have survived. It's a sort of spiritual heritage for faders and exdubs to see the progression. A heartfelt thank you from me!
Iggy
please pardon if this a repeated topic.
i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.
she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.
Most are clueless. But some have noticed.
My mom sent me a text with a story about conti attached so she knows a little bit.
Out in service one day a sister mentioned the pbs story. I enjoyed the conversation. CD at its best.
while at the assembly, when reading the financial statement, i noticed our expenses went from $2500 to almost $9500 so i questioned an elder and said that the assessment per publisher is at $10.50 for all in the us branch territory.. he added this helps the society know how much is coming in and helps them plan out future projects!.
i was just invited.
i thanked my old elder friend and he left.
(i'm not going).
this point was raised in another thread vaguely, and wanted to try and expand on it.. the wt has said (and rightly so in my opinion) "that excessive use of drugs and alcohol can ruin your life".
in my eyes this is a fact.. this is where it starts to get a little suspicious, as they also say (or subtly hint at) "that if you leave the wt you will becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol and will ruin your life".. its almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.
as there are a lot who leave the borg and they do start drinking heavy or smoking, or taking drugs...or whatever.. the wt capitalizes on the fact that people want more freedom, and they subtly ingrain the thought that.
Along the same line of thought I think that seeing people's lives going to shambles after they leave the Borg as being one of the strongest indoctrination tactics that the Borg has.
Recently a 50ish year old dub from a large family told me that the two brothers of his who left the "truth" lives are in shambles. And he is right. Their lives are a wreck. The rest of the family whom are witnesses have pretty good family lives. This is solid evidence to the rest of the family that being a witness is the best way of life.
