Posts by RichardHaley

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Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon

by hoser in

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today at the service group the elder leading couldn't figure out which was which.

he was trying to convince us that the memorial was at the new moon.

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RichardHaley

New moon. dark night no light from the skies. Good to go fishing.

Good for frogging too!

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Are congregations in Spain suffering an increase in banking fees since Watchtower 'seized' their bank savings?

by jwleaks in

remember a few years ago watchtower literally 'siezed' all individual congregation bank savings around the world above what was needed to cover basic kingdom hall monthly expenses?

a new march 30, 2017, boe letter has just gone out to congregations in spain, which, more or less, explains that congregations bank account funds no longer entitle congregations to reduced banking fees.

(see copy of actual paragraph below.).

RichardHaley

Banks are starting to charge fees for everything. Won't be long and you will see negative interest on savings. All this makes digital currency and stacking bullion even more desirable.

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New letter about Circuit Conventions accounting procedures

by Hecce in

i hope that one of the friends will post the letter soon.

i heard that on 3/27/2017 a letter with new instructions about the accounts at the circuit conventions was released.

the letter seems to adopt many of the corrections that had been suggested here at the forum, among other things during the accounts report they will be no mention of the per capita and the amount due is going to be released only to the elders.

RichardHaley

All assemblies and conventions have assigned attendance. In this way they can predict attendance to be sure seats are filled (motels also). From this they base the per capita fee. The numbers are computed in advance according to the number of publishers in each cong/circuit/region with a cushion for un-baptized children and visitors. Kind of like a membership fee per event. So the formula for expenses is based in advance on publishers assigned weather they show up or not. Maybe this is one of the reasons they push for baptism so young. I have heard that there is also a demographic factor to the formula but haven't seen any confirmation to that.

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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)

by pleaseresearch in

so a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).

RichardHaley

To illustrate: Some traditional rabbinical sources date the completion of the first Second Temple edifice as early as of 3408 A.M. (350 B.C.E.) but the best Jewish history and critical estimates have the Temple completed around 3574 A.M. or about 515 B.C.E. on the Gregorian calendar.
Even within the 166-year discrepancy, the Jehovah's Witnesses' 607 chronology has us not even returning to Jerusalem until 3596 A.M. (537 B.C.E.), more than 20 years AFTER the latest date for the Second Temple's dedication date. This makes the Watchtower calculations impossible.

Isn't 537 B.C.E. before (earlier/older) than 515 B.C.E.? Either way they are off.

48

Dose Wt really have that much cash.

by joe134cd in

i realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.

so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.

for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.

RichardHaley

I thought the WTS MEPS covered most of the simultaneous translation of their literature so hundreds of translators were not needed.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/302013001#h=140:0-141:539

"During the 1999 service year, the Watch Tower Society spent $64,475,225.00 in caring for special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers in their field service assignments" http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/302000003

I remember when it was around 1 million... 200 million now?

The monthly cong "expence" to the wwwork is no different than passing the plate as far as I am concerned and even worse since you are contracted to do so.

42

Cooking With Cast Iron

by Simon in

i can't even remember what got me interested in pans, probably wanting to try cooking more and watching some cooking videos on youtube, but i kind of started wanting to get a cast-iron skillet specifically so started reading up on them.

hey, if you're going to spend $50 on something you need to study them and create a comparison spreadsheet ... right?.

not only did cast-iron look great for cooking but there are some studies that show risks to aluminium / teflon cookware ... not that the wts was "right" about aluminium, but teflon can give off carcinogenic chemicals if overheated (so what if it chips off into your food?).

RichardHaley

You can still find old cast iron pans at yard sales if you keep your eyes open. Use cast iron when camping. Wipe out with paper towel and put back on the fire to dry and upkeep seasoning. Cast iron dutch oven is very versatile also.

27

Angry and scared

by BlackWolf in

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i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.

all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".

it really makes me sick sometimes.

RichardHaley

"well, when will you be ready?".

When I am on my own under my own roof and the descision is 100% mine.

50

Elder asking for help

by untruth in

this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.

i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.

i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.

RichardHaley

When I stepped down and just became a regular pub everyone started treating my wife and I different. We were no longer in the "club." This was noticed by her more than anything else. I didn't realize it at the time but looking back can see this affected her the most. She still goes to mtngs etc. but is treated as an outsider in many ways. I still support her at assemblies etc. Other family members have pumped up things against me since the last convention but my wife sees right through it. She is thinking more clearly and we discuss things openly. It takes time. Don't attack, take your time and encourage her to think for herself. It will have to be her decision to wake up.

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"You will never grow old in this present system of things" -- some campaign tools

by FatFreek 2005 in

i am approaching 76 years old.

i can clearly recall that awake!

statement and similar during the pre-1975 hype -- "staying alive in '75", et al.

RichardHaley

I agree with all the above comments. I remember the period well. All the rhetoric and propaganda. Pressure from parents and the rest of the jw world caused me to take the plunge in '73 @ 16. Parents still alive and active. Totally deny the 75 fiasco. To quote my dad, "when I read between the lines all I see is blank spaces." I give up talking to them about anything jw anymore. At least they hang out with me and are otherwise great to be around.

Other family members (since the convention) are semi-shunning me since I am "spiritually weak." I bite my tongue for the sake of the grand-kids, nieces and nephews, otherwise I wouldn't care.

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why would God and Jesus hate the united nations?

by nowwhat? in

shouldn't they say thanks for" holding down the fort" until we take over?.

RichardHaley

According to jw propaganda God has allowed mankind 6k years to try all forms of government to prove that man can't successfully rule himself, the UN being the last ditch effort on mankind's part. Of-course that line of reasoning doesn't take into account that the deck has been stacked against mankind by confining Satan and his demons to the vicinity of the earth to perpetrate all kinds of evil disrupting any honest effort.