Am I to understand that an elder is going to debate a disassociated person, I apologize if I've misunderstood something,
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ever since i had become an atheist and started to listen to podcasts such as the one by sam harris or shows like the atheist experience, i began to think that it is my responsibility to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible.
in order to ensure that my beliefs are rationally justified, i started to follow logic, reason, and evidence.
i cannot say that all my beliefs are true, but i can definitely say that i make the efforts to ensure that they are at the very least reasonable.. i also became willing to debate people.
Am I to understand that an elder is going to debate a disassociated person, I apologize if I've misunderstood something,
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a close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
) when the friend had an abortion.
You folks who are at present Bible believers will be able to look this up, a servant of a heathen king was talking to a prophet of Israel, he was concerned that he helped his blind master bow down to an idol daily, The Israelite prophet told the servant to "go in peace" interpreted to meaning: in some circumstances don't worry about it,
So even under strict law there were exceptions to a rule,
In practical terms today, men come into these situations with their minds already made up,
I've already noticed that when normal people are faced with such a situation, they'll say in effect, "I may or may not agree with what you're doing but I'm not going to judge you, you're my friend, you need my help and I'm here for you :0)
greetings, friends:.
the following is one of those now-i've-heard-everything field experiences.. this morning i went to a client's home to collect on work done.
while we were talking, the phone rang, she picked up, and told me she didn't recognize the caller id.
Sounds to me like some rogue sisters got bored! :)
alright.... so in another thread, most of us have been counseled for some lame stuff, and the responses range from funny to shocking.. now, let's focus on you giving counsel to others.
come on, don't be shy!.
i'll begin:.
I was the one that would show up at (always sisters) houses to comfort the bereaved NO HUGS!! and provide encouragement and support otherwise, I always thought it best to mostly listen, tended to keep me out of trouble counselwise, the one thing that stands out about counsel was with my son, he wanted to see Jurassic Park and I prevented him, I did it because I didn't want to look bad with the prissy congregation who would give me trouble, I didn't want to stand up to them, it was a bad call and I regret it to this day,
nothing big here, just a couple small observations:.
on this month's program at about the 43 minute mark, after bragging about giving a little medical help to jws in africa, they make them 'pay' for their services by offering onscreen testimonials thanking the organization.
one of them is an elderly man who i think got hearing aids or something (i forget) and said that now he can hear the meetings better.
Sing praises (He likes that :) )
https://www.jw.org/en/whats-new/online-convention-donations/.
online donations for conventions.
donations to support the annual conventions of jehovah’s witnesses may now be made online from a number of countries.
How can I donate a kidney online?
there were many addressed to me.
for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.
i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.
Regarding Puff the Magic Dragon, synthetic Opiates such as Vicaden and Oxycodone are the ONLY acceptable Pharmaceuticals and the preferred choice of brothers everywhere and use thereof will not affect your service priveliges, apart from that, Rutherford clearly established alchoholism as the recreational activity of choice,
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if you are, you know it is not easy to remain intimate with someone who thinks you are basically "walking dead".. any thoughts or tips to share with the board?.
what has been the greatest issue for your marriage?.
need to vent?.
I think the only thing that will get you through this intact is if you have a really close friendship with your other, sadly most jws did not have this best friends type of relationship going into their marriage, to the contrary I've seen elders pressure the quick marriages of virtual strangers,
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