Naoscillator

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  No such thing as history

  by woodforde in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why do you think it is that wts limit accessibility to watchtowers and awakes to only issues since year 2000 on jworg?

  a whiff of something slightly orwellian?

  not a case of re-writing history but nixing it altogether?

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  "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

  
  
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  Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!

  i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.

  they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.

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  The org. is proud of having shifted from more challenging, "deep" material to articles that are focused solely on behavior modification. They seem to start with the application and work backwards to find scriptural support, and even if none is found, the Bible is bent, twisted, and shaped any way the GB sees fit to get the desired result. It seems like an article or talk of pure commendation or even reflection on the good things in life is frowned upon as mere "ear tickling". You tell people they are good and clean already, and they won't get up and do more!
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  WT's subtle attack on Wikipedia!

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  did anyone notice this wt's subtle attack on wikipedia?

  they wrote (from the 2011 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses, pp.

  9-10. source: 'tracing all things with accuracy'):.

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  Their feelings about Wikipedia are understandable. Months before this yearbook was published, I read the Wiki entry on Jehovah's Witnesses. From the first sentence on, my perspective began to be altered as I adopted an outsider's viewpoint. Just the naked facts in the absence of standard WT spin made me start questioning if we weren't just another sect.
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  OMG - January JW Broadcast - be sure to only talk to people who think like you

  by bafh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i couldn't stand it.

  it was so horrible.

  they really want people to stay simple and obedient.

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  Naoscillator

  Funny how evolution is such a dirty word. 
  

  A decade ago I heard a CO saying nearly everything Morris said, down to the anecdote about the young man, (a MS in the CO's version) coming back from university believing in evolution and with serious doubts about "the truth". Even then as a full-on loyalist I wondered how this seems to happen so easily to so many. An absurd idea like evolution couldn't put a scratch in our iron-clad truth! Then I realized I everything I "knew" about evolution was from, you guessed it, the Creation book. It was years before I dared look further into what the WT calls "a religious doctrine couched in scientific language." 

  Yeah, they won't tell you not to send your children to what essentially is Satan's Little Shop of Spiritually Perilous Ideas. That's your own personal decision if you sacrifice your child to Satan's world, the GB dignified you with making that (wrong) choice for yourself! 
  
  
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  New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

  he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

  if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

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  I was in an elders and servants meeting with the CO a couple of years back when the CO laid this out as a requirement but didn't stipulate any consequences for not following it.
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  ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

  (published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

  thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

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  DD, I only got my spouse to see that the elders in San Diego were at fault. I know, though, that nobody could have told me that WT org. was responsible before I could see it for myself. With 20 more cases in Zalkin's cannon, the last pockets of resistance in many people's minds will be sure to fall. Slowly but surely.
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  Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. social
  2. current

  in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

  http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

  documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

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  Amazing how segregated and mutually exclusive these departments and legal entities of Jah's United Organization become whenever it's convenient, eh?

  You could quote Losch's declaration verbatim to any JW, and they would dismiss it as an "apostate lie" since it's so far outside of how everyone in the organization perceives the role of the GB. Or worse, excuse his obfuscation as protecting Kingdom Interests like he's supposed to do til the bitter end.
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  Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

  what say you?.

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  Turns out the judge was immune to GB mind-tricks.
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  Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. social
  2. current

  in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

  http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

  documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

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  Losch and his counsel think this statement clears him of having to answer for Watchtower:

  "I do not have, and never have had, any authority as an individual to make or determine corporate policy for Watchtower or any department of Watchtower."

  Sure. It's only the GB and its service committe of which Losch is a member that get to do these things. The days of Rutherford and his autocracy are long gone, so of course Losch has no authority over WT as an individual.

  If this statement of his somehow stands in appeal then next time, better subpoena the whole service committee. Or better yet, the whole GB. What then, will they say the GB does not determine WT policy either? What authority would they not have collectively that Losch does not have as an individual? They'd have to get pretty creative to answer that.
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  one last step..Is being mentally out the same as being emotionally out?

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we talk here about the importance of being mentally and physically out to be really free.. what about being emotionally free?.

  i realized for me, i had to be emotionally awake first.

  i had been yo-young back and forth for years.

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  Mentally out. Physically in. And, thanks to this thread, I realize that I am still in physically because of still being in emotionally.