Posts by opusdei1972

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an experimental physicist explains his faith

by venting in

what do you think of this story?

all i can do is quote from someone much smarter than me.

"men offten mistake strength of their feelings with strength of their argument" venting..

opusdei1972

venting I can give you my own experience. I am Ph.D. in Satistical Physics (one of the fields of theoretical physics). Currently, I work as a professor and researcher in a University. I was baptized as a Jehovah's Witness one year after I started my undergraduate studies in the university. I have to say that I tried for many years to avoid arguments and readings against the Bible. I wanted to be a witness because I lost my father who was a witness, so I thought that I could see him in the new order by being a faithful witness. Of course, I always felt that I was a bad witness, because I put first my carreer to have a family and support them. So I always did the minimum in the field service, so rarely I was a pioneer.

For many years I did not want to use my critical skills to test the arguments of the Watchower Society as well as the Bible. When I wanted to use my brain ( in the same sense as I use it to solve problem of physics) so as to analyze the Society's claims, I had to admit and conclude for myself that I was living in a lie. Recently I was doing the same thing for the Bible. However, it does not mean that I am an atheist. But currently I don't believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.

I think that those scientists who are supporting the Watchtower Society are in the same denial status as I was when I did not want to use my critical skills.

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If You Can Get Out Of The Jehovah's Witness Religion---DO IT!

by minimus in

jw
friends

i realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.

they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.

the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.

opusdei1972

That is the first thing I did when I realized that the governing body is a gang of liars. I stoped attending the meetings. I can't waste my time in hearing a stupid theology.

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What if Jehovah's Kingdom really became a Kingdom?

by SonoftheTrinity in

i mean what if a government decided to internally deport its jehovah's witnesses and give them their own independent country.

"here, since you say we are of satan, we're giving you a few square miles so lets see how much better a job your theocracy does, and this way you can't spread your religion.

" i'm surprised russia didn't try that.

opusdei1972

There is a story in which the Watchtower dream of the new world comes true. In this new world, judicial committees can now order to kill persons who disobey the policies of the 144000 kings. These 144000 kings can also send angels to watch you all the time. I don't remember what a witness did, but he had to face a judicial committee in which the elders decided to sentence him to death. Interestingly, after dying he was suprised because his soul went to heaven, instead of being eternaly annihilated in the symbolic Geena. Then he told to Saint Peter: " I come from the earth, in the new world of Jehovah's Witnesses". Then Saint Peter said " Sorry guy, that was the Hell Fire, we made a mistake, now you are wellcome here in heaven".

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Is is right to leave your job for the WT? In an assembly interview

by skin in

jw
friends

we had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.

most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.

anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.

opusdei1972

We have to remember this for them:

*** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold:'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

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Is is right to leave your job for the WT? In an assembly interview

by skin in

jw
friends

we had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.

most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.

anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.

opusdei1972

"a sister was interviewed by the CO because she left her job to do more WT work,"

I was always against to this kind of cursed interviews. This is a dirty and frequent tactic of The Watchtower leaders intended to rob the time of the witnesses. I know many of them who have left their personal projects for spending more time in field service. Sadly they think they are doing this for God, but they ignore that they are serving a gang of liars.

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For those in the Watchtower who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible

by opusdei1972 in

the watchtower says:.

9 while most major books of religion say very little, if anything, about god, the bible acquaints us with jehovah god and his activities.

it helps us to see the many facets of his personality.

opusdei1972

“Whether the original Hebrew text contained the phrase found in the Septuagint cannot be stated with certainty. Whatever the case, God's spirit guided Paul in his quotation, and therefore these words have divine authorization. This does not mean that the entire Septuagint translation is to be viewed as inspired”. (“Insight”, Vol. 1, page 1206)

Another Watchtower absurdity and contradiction. "The entire Septuagint is not inspired, but certain portions do". How convenient !. For instance, if I were Trinitarian I would prefer the Hebrew version of Isaiah 9:6, in which the Messiah is called "Mighty God". On the other hand, if I were Unitarian I would choose the Septuagint which says "the Angel of Great Counsel", instead of "Mighty God". If I were a Jew I would choose the Hebrew version of Isaiah 7:14 which says that Immanuel born from a maiden (almah), but if I were a christian I have to choose the Septuagint, which says "virgin"(greek: parthenos), instead of "maiden". It is a mess.

“That the Christian Greek Scriptures were likewise presented and accepted as inspired is also clear.” (1Co 14:37; Ga 1:8, 1 1, 1 2; 1Th 2:13). (“Insight”, Vol. 1, page 1205)

If I were to accept the letter of Jude as inspired Scripture, I must do the same for the book of 1 Enoch, which is quoted by Jude. Also, in the second century, the Muratorian Canon ignores the letters of Peter and the Apocalypse. Why didn't Paul quote any of the four Gospels? Why does the Gospel of John contradict the synoptics Gospels??

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Paul - GB Member (W 9/15/14)

by pixel in

ok, is this a "new understanding" or what?

up until this point i thought that the borg refered paul as a co or do, but never gb member:.

p. 12 now, why would paul a spiritual giant who likely was a member of the first-century governing bodycall himself a miserable man?.

opusdei1972

Oh yeah, Paul was in the Writing Department of the first century. But who was Freddy, the oracle of the first century?

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Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's

by BackSlider in

jw
friends

it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.

is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?

would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?

opusdei1972

I'll try to get the book.

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Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's

by BackSlider in

jw
friends

it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.

is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?

would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?

opusdei1972

And, yet, the Apostle Paul held up the OT as worthy of respect by saying "all scripture [the Old Testament] is inspired and beneficial".

How could be beneficial the following passage? :

"Attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants" (First Samuel 15:3).

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Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's

by BackSlider in

jw
friends

it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.

is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?

would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?

opusdei1972

One of the worse things in the Watchtower religion is the use of the Old Testament to justify certain policies.

As I told before, the Witnesses justify the death of many children due to the bood ban, because the Old Testament narrates that Jehovah let his people die in His wars against the pagans. So, you may justify many absurdities by using the Old Testament as the Word of God.