it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.
by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.
but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.
Hi wannaexit.
As some others have said, it's ok how you feel about the past.
Don't allow yourself to become swallowed up by feelings - nobody can change the past so don't worry about it too much.
Keep doing what you're doing - living life as best you can now and for the future.
I think I'll get off my soap-box now.
All the best
LUHE
it looks as if the gb are blundering around and really showing themselves up for the buffoons they are.
all the stupidity about tight trousers is laughable and if the general public were to see these selfmportant cult leaders blabbing this stuff then the last shred of their credibility would be destroyed.........perhaps.. the wbt$ seem to have dug themselves into a deep pit of no escape with their lies, new light(tm), paedophile protection and all the other nauseating peripherals they have.. we also suspect that the wbt$ have their spies here because they are either predictable or get ideas form forums like this.. so!
are you listening watchtower(r)?
I know it's only opinions...but......what do you think the watchtower(tm) could do to gain credibility and boost their business again that would not just be for their benefit but the benefit of many?
Acknowledge and apologise for their mistakes, for starters.
it used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.
how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.
Excellent thread, minimus.
This is the take-home point: none of the Society's prophecies has happened. Not one.
Christ's invisible presence since 1914 I'll leave for now - I'm feeling generous. Strictly speaking, it can't be proved one way or the other.
they say that seinfeld was a tv program about nothing.
in the end, it was all silliness.. this religion is inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
it's stupid.. .
'When one elevates oneself to the position of "God's Chosen", that's when the mediocrity sets in'
If the GB truly were Christ's brothers, they'd be washing the feet of the r&f, as it were.
That they're not doing this shows that their attitude is far from Christ-like.
they say that seinfeld was a tv program about nothing.
in the end, it was all silliness.. this religion is inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
it's stupid.. .
I agree with the OP, the WTS is inconsequential in the scheme of things.
Also, they promised us the earth, quite literally, and delivered jack sh1t - so in that sense too, they're the religion of nothing.
Maybe it's my fault that I fell for their nonsense, but the WTS definately owe all born-ins an explanation and an apology for discouraging education, for wasting years of their lives, for ill-equiping them for the realities of this world.
so, i watched this recorded broadcast by one of the bigs,i heard this rediculous but yet humourous statement.
something like ''spritually sluggish is the same as wickedness or evel.
lol, get a load of that lol.
Sounds about right. An attempt to manipulate and mentally abuse the r&f.
Here's a line I can remember: 'it's impossible to stand still in the truth, brothers' - I mean, WTF?!
i'm sure most people heard about this story that broke yesterday.. http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/world/meast/jerusalem-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.
of couse the governing body would never encourage the brothers to go to unsafe areas like detroit or israel.
sadly the brothers would believe it if the governing body told them drinking cyanide was safe.. .
Sir82 - don't misunderestimate the GB's prophesying ability.
Seriously, if they do believe Israel is safe for the preaching work, what next? Pioneering in Mecca?
that's the word according to my mil.
mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.
her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.
I'm pretty certain most people at JWN have been told similar at some point.
When I was an unbaptized publisher in 1994 I was told not to put off baptism because 'armegeddon's not round the corner, it's staring us in the face' and 'you don't want to miss out', blah, blah, blah.
20 years later, armegeddon is imminent ... again!
everyone has an opinion on things.
oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.
but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.
'Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here' - agreed.
Your advice in the OP surely applies to highly qualified, highly experienced people outside JWN too - everybody's subject to human error.
please help me with this: can you think of a single mind-controlling cult that isn't anti-gay???
it seems to me that virtually all such groups preach against homosexuality.
jws.....mormons....moonies.....jim jones.....david koresh.....the catholic church.....radical islam.....russian orthodox church......scientology......lyndon larouche...to name just a few.
NAVYTOWN - I agree 100%.
'JWs.....Mormons....Moonies.....Jim Jones.....David Koresh.....the Catholic Church.....Radical Islam.....Russian Orthodox Church......Scientology......Lyndon LaRouche...' - let's add 'ordinary Islam' to your list.
'Can anyone name a high-control cult that APPROVES of gays and lesbians????' - Stonewall, maybe.
