Posts by BucketShopBill

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Do the Governing Body believe their own teachings or know it's a lie? Are they atheists?

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11 years ago

the new young blood gb member, you think he really thinks this is the truth or is he protecting his financial interest like all the older gb members who enjoy basking in glory of men?

do you think they believe in the "over-lapping generation" or was that a mistake done by barr?.

how much of the watchtower and the bible do the governing body know, ray franz jr. said he was not impressed with their bible knowledge and their lack of knowledge of the watchtower cannon.

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BucketShopBill 11 years ago

How can a 19 year old kid read websites like JW Facts, JW Struggle and "JW Problems" and see the religion as told to me tonight "Is utter bullshit and nothing more than a money making scam"? I was not aware one of my kids believed the Watchtower was a bunch of lying thieves and showed me more about Miracle Wheat and Beth Sarim" than I knew myself.

Here's the kicker what my kid said regarding his COBE Uncle, "you know it's the only religion that allows education impaired individuals to keep a sense of power over mentally challenged JWs occupying Janitorial jobs. They are not real clergy, they have no education and the Elders I know I always thought hated the Flock!" I was shocked a young person would feel the Elders hated the Flock, I guess the cruel Elders and Elderettes are noticed by the young Ex-JWs, boy do my kids loath the religion now! They feel robbed!

Speaking of a JW who is long gone we both suspected discovered the Watchtower was a Scam in 2007 my child said "How come he did not tell us, I could have been out of this religion when I was 12 years old! I wish I would have left this Organization when my brother tried so hard and hard but his lifestyle was a joke so I discounted his message instead of examining the Cult. We all were trapped in this Cult because all the Prophecies had not expired "Worthless" like the "Generation" finally did.

If a child can recognize a Cult, you know the Governing Body know they are not God's people unless they are Psychopaths and have no humility like so many of their hatchling Elders and Elderettes. I think the Governing Body are not Theists, I think they don't believe in a personal God and use the Watchtower because they are too old and where else can they be treated like gods and worshiped by JWs who think they have Jehovah's Cell Phone number?

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"Saudi Arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting citizens who 'call for secular thought in any form" Also

by BucketShopBill in

11 years ago

saudi arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting citizens who 'call for secular thought in any form.

read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594139/saudi-arabia-declares-atheists-terrorists-new-laws.html#ixzz3ezbfshlr .

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11 years ago

BucketShopBill 11 years ago

Saudi Arabia declares atheists terrorists under new laws targeting citizens who 'call for secular thought in any form

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594139/Saudi-Arabia-declares-atheists-terrorists-new-laws.html#ixzz3EZbfShLR
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Did you know it was not Iran who got upset with Rushdie's "Satanic Verses"? The Islamic Zealots often found themselves at odds with the governments they were under, leaders during the great Islamic Expansion were not zealous religious leaders but men looking to expand their empire and secure more money to fuel their empire. The leaders were scrutinized by Zealots who had nothing better to do than walk around and point their fingers at non-Muslims forcing a conversion or demanding the "Jibyza Tax" from anyone who would not follow the zealous religious leaders. The article mentions how "The Satanic Verses" had a book review done in the Newspaper in Iran and only after intense pressure from radicals from other Islamic religions did great Khomeni send out his Fatiwah.

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Saturday morning field service is a joke

by hoser in

11 years ago

i havent been going door to door saturday mornings for since i can't remember when.

i have been putting in regular reports to the congregation but the last time i actually went on a door was probably six months ago or so and it has been at least 2 years since i did a saturday morning.

9:30 we showed up to the group arrangement, we waited outside because we were not sure that it was the right place.

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BucketShopBill 11 years ago

The last time "I threw in the towel" because Field Circus started at:

9:30 did a few calls

10:00 after doing two RVs we had coffee and someone said they had a call twenty five miles outside the territory, so we drove because someone said they had a very beautiful garden I was interested in.

11:40 we stopped for a snack at a Bagel Shop and the brother said (That was a nice three hours of field service, don't you feel good!), I was bummed out, this was what the Pioneers and Elders and Female Elders were doing to, how is this Missionary Work?

How many perjured their field service report each month, I know people who spend all their time answering some of you on Yahoo Answers trying to get their Pioneer Hours. When told they are talking to Apostates, they don't care as long as they get their time in. I see even Yahoo has lost the majority of Witnesses who argued and tried to make sense of all the posts people were trolling with. The Elders in several of the last Kingdom Halls I was in were worthless at the Field Ministry, they too lied how much time they were getting in the door-to-door Ministry. I counted 1.5 hours which was liberial, the COBE rounded his up to 5 hours saying "Jehovah is Generous and pay's his employees well!" "What the hell does that have to do with giving the Society a accurate accounting of the Field Service numbers?

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Do the Governing Body believe their own teachings or know it's a lie? Are they atheists?

by BucketShopBill in

11 years ago

the new young blood gb member, you think he really thinks this is the truth or is he protecting his financial interest like all the older gb members who enjoy basking in glory of men?

do you think they believe in the "over-lapping generation" or was that a mistake done by barr?.

how much of the watchtower and the bible do the governing body know, ray franz jr. said he was not impressed with their bible knowledge and their lack of knowledge of the watchtower cannon.

11 years ago

BucketShopBill 11 years ago

The new Young Blood GB Member, you think he really thinks this is the Truth or is he protecting his financial interest like all the older GB Members who enjoy basking in glory of men? Do you think they believe in the "Over-Lapping Generation" or was that a mistake done by Barr?

How much of the Watchtower and the Bible do the Governing Body know, Ray Franz Jr. said he was not impressed with their Bible knowledge and their lack of knowledge of the Watchtower Cannon. Reading through COC and ISOFC and soon Ron Fry's book I think the Governing Body don't believe in God, my opinion is they are like lRon who knew he had a Gravy Train and enjoyed all the glory from men, how are the Governing Body any different, they compare themselves to Jesus Christ and claim their words are Jehovah's Words on Earth!

To all the new ones leaving the Organization, you must remember we never had the truth in the first place, it's up to us to find our spiritual path, following the Watchtower was the least path of resistance, how many of us were digging deep trying to find out what God's Word said without using the Watchtower? The Watchtower and the Bible Clash, try reading the Bible without any influence of the Watchtower and notice how different the two ideas are.

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Circuit Accounts Servants Confesses how the SCAM WORKS!!

by JT in

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21 years ago

yes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.

i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.

as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?

2 years ago

BucketShopBill 11 years ago

Looks like inflation is running rampant for the Watchtower Organization if they are now charging 70% more for Circuit Bragging Assemblies. How many of you did the accounts like this brother who wrote the details how things run?

We had to pay almost $3000 for a Bethel Couple to come out and give a talk that was not worth $20, his speaking style and constant reminder "The End is Nigh" according to the Slave. I get tired of hearing "Do you know how much the Faithful Slave loves you?"

Donations were not set aside for roofing, plumbing, other repairs that might be needed, the Elders who were the heads of the Assembly would drain the accounts and tell the friends "We started the Assembly with a $8000 deficiet, we know you will set aside your valuable things and take care of these expenses because of your love of Jehovah!"

Where did all the money go, it's not enough they are draining the Kingdom Halls of all their surplus cash, they need to drain the Circuit Assemblies of all monies too! I experienced some heated discussions from brothers who thought it was stupid to drain all the cash to and lie to the brothers and say 'we have no money!". The brothers who got angry were not used as financial helpers and often left the Organization because they saw the Watchtower used them!

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-21-2014 WT Study (OT JWs)

by blondie in

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11 years ago

comments you will not hear at the 09-21-2014 wt study (july 15, 2014, pages (23-27) old testament jws.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=w&yearfilter=2014.

review comments will be headed outside the boxes.

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BucketShopBill 11 years ago

Blondie, thank you for a great study! Can you answer why it's invisible to JWs the fact worshipers of God were called "Christians by Divine Providence"? I don't understand how the Scriputures were veiled and we were so distracted by the verses in Isaiah we missed out on what the Bible really had to say. JWs get uncomfortable and don't really know how to answer the question, "By whose authority did you change the name given to the Christians?" they look with a blank tired face and shake their heads, is it blasphemy in your opinion to change something that was revealed to be "Divine" to a man made name to differentiate them from a group of Bible Students Rutherford made angry?

C.T. Russell said his followers only went by the name of Christians, when I showed that to other brothers they got weird and started to use the word Apostate on their own religious magazines. It's a confusing religion that feeds off the fear, creates a pseudo sense of "we have Bible knowledge you don't" that proves wrong over time as their Unfaithful Slave has to change doctrine constantly to keep the Witnesses on their toes. Ray Franz spoke of keeping the "Masses in a sense of constant agitation and anxiety to distract the Witnesses from what was really happening in the World.". great lesson, it was nice!

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Jehovah hates universities but loves Michael Behe

by opusdei1972 in

11 years ago

jehovah wants his faithful witnesses for hating the university:.

university and college campuses are notorious for bad behaviordrug and alcohol abuse, immorality, cheating, hazing, and the list goes on.

what is the atmosphere in many of this worlds institutions of higher education?

11 years ago

BucketShopBill 11 years ago

JWs have tents and booths all over the college and Universitys sharing their Education to the stupid worldy people!

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What Are Jehovah's Witnesses Known For In Helping Humanity? What Can They Brag About?

by BucketShopBill in

11 years ago

catholic churches were known for starting schools, orphanages, resthomes, hospitals along with other ideas like universities.

we can debate who started what but you will be missing the point.

i know some of the best colleges were started by religion, what has the watchtower contributed to society as a whole?

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BucketShopBill 11 years ago

I postponed my meeting, I am collecting information to see how much the Watchtower has helped the World and the poor. I won't allow them to make the rules with me, it's been a few months since I've heard from them and the letter I received was "registered" asking for a audience, you don't receive "registered letters" for "love bombing", they don't have enough or pose a credible threat now, maybe they will in the coming month but I will worry about that later.

I am preaching to the Choir, everyone here who is honest knows JWs don't help the World because the Watchtower teaches them not to!

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"My Christian Quest" Ron Fry "Watchtower Admit's It's Followers were Apostates in 1916-1919!

by BucketShopBill in

11 years ago

http://www.christianrespondent.com/pubs/publications.htm.

barbara mentioned all the hard work ron fry did for he, have you read his book or listened to his sermons?

we as ex-jws are always looking to build up our mental arsenal, i think you might enjoy having another high caliber ex-jw author under your wing.. .

11 years ago

BucketShopBill 11 years ago

Did you notice during every judicial committee you oversaw the Elders would ask you "If not Jehovah's Witnesses than who has the Truth?" Ron Fry has made a choice to follow a set of beliefs he feels are as true as what's as close to truth one can get at this point in time. JW Elders often harrass members leaving the Organization with the False Dilema or Fuzy Logic Fallacy, your given two choices where neither is the correct answer.

When the Elders ask the member "What or Who has the true religion?" their just like Pilate who asked "What is truth?", no desire to understand what's brought you to your current spiriutal condition, they are hoping to attack your choice you made. I see nothing wrong with Brother Fry's decesion to continue his walk with God, if he's happy and his beliefs bring him comfort more power to him. How many of the Elders listened after they asked you "If not Jehovah's Organization than whose?" they make the assumption the Watchtower is as close to true religion as your going to get in this life and if their wrong, they believe they are saved in all forms of religion because their such good people.

JWs are not the best people in the World, after many decades of intimate closeness with the Organization it's so obvious they are worse than the other Cults and major religions because they guilt people out of living life to the full. The Organization attack's higher education, attack's Bible Study Aids not approved by the Watchtower, they attack anything they don't understand, I think Ron Fry now know's exactly what he believes! His book looks like another valuable aid to bring the Harlot of New York down on her knees and free more Witnesses captive to their concept!

What do JWs do to help make this World a better place than waste people's time by bending their ears sharing false prophecies and offer a fake community relationship? The Kingdom Halls are often the deviod of love and joy, many of you here were lonely in the Kingdom Halls, they are hollow shells of hope and lack love!

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Turning My House in to A Ex-JW Gathering Church, Will it bug my JW Neighbors?

by BucketShopBill in

11 years ago

i am thinking of turning my house in to a ex-jw meeting place, getting bar, pool tables, ping-pong, foseball, pinball and kegs of beer on tap.

big screen singles pad for the local ex-jws to visit and hang out.

will this bug all the jws who live near by me, do they get weird around known apostates?.

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BucketShopBill 11 years ago

Steve I thought of making this overt gesture because they are the ones who are being hostile, I get these little notes from them showing a picture of Fire Raining down on the Masses on the Great Day!". Laying low is not working out for me, they are taking measures and are testing my patiences with weird notes and strange cut-out messages. One of the freaks cut out words and photos from the Watchtower and other Organization literature showing pictures of people dying in the old creepy magazines.

They are acting out the way the Watchtower tells them to, you harrass people who don't attend Meetings because the Watchtower gives them a false sense of power!

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