Watchtower has always been into "prepping" and underground facilities. I couldn't believe all the underground and "secret" places when I was in Bethel. Lots of Paranoia in doctrine and actions.
Balaamsass2
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Secret Building Project?
by Mum ini watch a lot of ex-jw videos on youtube and read many of the comments.
recently, i watched a video by an ex-jw whose videos i had never watched before.
i don't remember his handle.. anyway, there was only one comment posted at the time i watched the video.
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Where it all went wrong for the WT - JF Rutherford
by LoveUniHateExams ini was thinking a bit about this the other day.
ct russell, from what i remember about him, kinda seemed like a genuine, nice(ish) guy, although he had a few eccentric but harmless ideas.. during the russell era jws (actually bible students) could still celebrate christmas, worship in other churches if there was no kingdom hall available, and accept blood transfusions.. then after russell died, along came rutherford - a major league a-hole, for sure.. rutherford had plenty of eccentric ideas but at least some of them weren't/aren't harmless.
some have been long forgotten about - jesus depicted without a beard, the plan to rename the names of the week because names such as thursday (thor's day) is pagan, the articles about the 'dangers' of aluminium, etc.. one key contribution of rutherford which does a lot of harm is no blood transfusions, even in life-threatening situations.. another is shunning, something which never occurred under russell, or at least was much milder.. rutherford has a lot to answer for, i reckon ....
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Balaamsass2
If you read the "Studies in the Scriptures" it is plain to see that from the very beginning it was all wrong. It was a book publishing business wrapped in a Quasi-Religious cult.
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Jehovah's Witness facing more than 50 sexual assault-related charges withdraws bail application
by Balaamsass2 in"the wife of a man accused of sexually assaulting members of his congregation has claimed the alleged victims had "an axe to grind" with the jehovah's witnesses church, court documents reveal.. key points:.
a sunshine coast man accused of the rape and sexual assault of members of the jehovah's witnesses community has withdrawn his bail application.
court documents state the alleged offending occurred over a period of years at several locations throughout queensland.
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Balaamsass2
"The wife of a man accused of sexually assaulting members of his congregation has claimed the alleged victims had "an axe to grind" with the Jehovah's Witnesses church, court documents reveal.
Key points:
- A Sunshine Coast man accused of the rape and sexual assault of members of the Jehovah's Witnesses community has withdrawn his bail application
- Court documents state the alleged offending occurred over a period of years at several locations throughout Queensland
- Police claim in court documents that some of the alleged victims were "ostracised" when they tried to report the matter to senior members of the church
The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has been charged with more than 50 offenses including rape, torture, and procuring sex acts by false pretense"
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Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?
by Vanderhoven7 inan avid wts supporter writes:.
re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.
if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.
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Balaamsass2
In the 60s and 70s, Gamma globulin vaccinations/injections were discouraged publicly because supposedly they contained blood fractions. A nice juicy steak also contains blood fractions......
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How would you get a hold of your own Introduction Letter
by Foolednomore ini'm sure there is some unflattering things mentioned in my family 's introduction letter.
how would one get a copy of it?
i'm sure law suits will happen.
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Balaamsass2
It would be almost impossible to get your intro letter if you are a publisher. Most of those letters are boilerplate unless you have been disfellowshipped, on "restrictions", a child molester or someone is "out to get you". Frequently an elder with an agenda simply makes a phone call to the new hall.
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PIMO Bethel Elder Has Special Message & Speaks out
by Newly Enlightened ina pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.
the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.
no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.
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Balaamsass2
The lunch menu WAS a big deal at Bethel back in the day. Slivered Almonds, Brussel Sprouts, and Artichoke Hearts would have been a HARD NO by Couch and Krebs in the 70s. Too Expensive. Every meal was budgeted to the penny per Bethelite.
Very unhappy wives, and affairs at Bethel? Not uncommon at any period.
Over drinking? Yes. The tight stipend made being an alcoholic difficult to afford unless you arrived with money or had a generous family. I would have enjoyed more drinking while there, but my meager allowance wouldn't cover it. lol.
Paranoid Governing Body and administration? Absolutely. I have never been around a more paranoid group of people. A bunch of old ladies.
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Naked in the New World
by neat blue dog ini know there was a painting of a woman being resurrected naked and someone coming to greet her holding clothes, but what about after perfection, after the thousand years?.
the idea is we're supposed to achieve what adam lost by returning to human perfection, so wouldn't that include not wearing clothes, especially as the act of adam and eve hiding in the trees and sewing fig leaves signified shame, and imperfection passed on through the reproductive organs.
has the wt ever addressed this?
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Balaamsass2
lol. When I was 13 or so, I remember thinking a world of perfect naked women sounded pretty good.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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Balaamsass2
Adding to admonitions from the platform to NOT save for the future, were the admonitions to avoid ALL education. I clearly remember murmuring and gossiping in the 70s about a few elders who took short courses to prepare for simply getting a Realtors License or Contractor's license.
I eventually went to college at night. I had to carefully plan my courses around meeting nights. I told no one for years. You would have thought I was selling drugs or having an affair. Looking back, I can't believe I stayed in for so long. I am so grateful for the invention of Google, and sites like this that opened my eyes to the absolute craziness of Watchtower Dogma.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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Balaamsass2
Thanks, LongHairGal.
I agree with you. The funny thing is the bible actually admonished working hard, thrift, and saving money for emergencies.."Go to the ant you lazy one". It is fascinating how Watchtower expounds from the pulpit so many non-biblical teachings...and tries to punish people for actually following sound scriptural advice.
As far as feeling pity, it is hard to see a senior sleeping on the ground, carrying all her worldly belongings in plastic trash bags because she hung on every word of deluded pompous ass hats in New York.
My current wife of 22 years, a lovely woman with common sense,(third gen) agrees with you. :)
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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Balaamsass2
Many years ago my first wife, (a former special pioneer) flipped when she noticed my paycheck stub had deductions for a 401k and IRA. She ran to the elders to report me for "not believing the end was near". This resulted in a "Judicial investigation" and the loss of some "Priveledges".
The elders who counseled me for my lack of faith ended up in poverty in their old age 30 years later. Wife #1 left me soon after the incident for "Spiritual Endangerment" because I wasn't up to her Spiritual standards. Wife #1, is now a senior and a "bag lady" who begs change at Starbucks, sleeps behind KH halls, and "couch surfs" on a few JW couches. She never remarried,(no one was up to her spiritual standards), and most JWs will not rent a room to her because (she has no $$) and she likes to remind THEM... they are not "putting kingdom interests first" if they have nice things or a nice home. The end result of following Watchtower's advice. :)