mark writes.
"if a person accepts a blood transfusion, the jehovah’s witness elders are required to “investigate” to see if the person is sorry for “cowardly” saving their life.
if the person doesnt beg and grovel to the elders for allowing the doctor to save their life (or that of their child) then the elders can take this as a sign that he/she has disassociated from the congregation - and tell the congregation to start shunning them.. if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual’s attitude.
Of course, there are LOTS of JWs who work in insurance or at hospitals or medical offices transcribing medical records, and coding for insurance billing, so I imagine even a discrete JW could be outed.
Years ago a few sisters who worked for Stanford Medical routinely & secretly informed Elders about any JWs who took blood, had abortions, had STDs, smoked, and single sisters on birth control, etc, etc. The "Guilty" never met their accusers or had any idea how the elders found out.
a lot of ink has been spilled on the topic of the cross.
the wt felt it had uncovered some deep conspiracy when they found a number of words were used to describe how jesus was understood to have been killed.
there was an extensive thread many years ago that in short strongly supports the conclusion that at least some nt writers envisioned a cross, while others had a tree in mind.
Watchtower/Rutherford LOVED anything that made them seem different. Therefore the big hoopla over the cross. The Romans like many ancient cultures could be quite brutal, and they became efficient at torture theatre to keep the masses in check. Around 70 BCE they crucified 6,000 followers of Sparticus along the Apian way, so the practice is, and was not a big secret or mystery.
someone on this forum kindly posted a link to the program of the current elders' training schools taking place.. i was just looking at it and thought that the part i have highlighted looks innocent enough unless the elder has an overfondness for young ones.. if he is spending too much time with the younger ones he can say, with hand on his heart, i am simply following through on the latest direction from the organisation about befriending, training, and mentoring the young.
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Yes, Beth Sarim..creepy. I think the Police refer to this as "grooming". :) lol
a simple " me" if you dont want to say more--or a short explanation about who is shunning you and how long has this been going on.. i'll set the ball rolling: my daughter--her husband and children; my younger son --no contact from them for 40 years...because i left their religion.. (edit--i just noticed the typo in the header--if should be of ).
I faded about 12 years ago during an illness and move out of town- different circuit.
I "dripped" little truths and questions on the wife (3rd gen) for a couple of years and she faded, then read Ray Franze's books and was gone 100%.
A couple of C.O.s tried to have a "meeting" with me but I simply didn't return the calls or answer the door and after 5 years they gave up.
I "dripped" questions and truths on Mom for a few years and she faded. Our daughter quit.
Did the same with old JW friends on Facebook. Most are OUT now. Lots of material from this site. :)
JW cousins and local JWs are now frenemies who shun us, but we don't care (a few hundred people) :)
the answer is a definite no!.
because every doctrine that is unique to jehovah's witnesses is not in the bible.
the unique doctrines of jehovah’s witnesses are the ones that only jehovah’s witnesses teach.
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses teach that there were less than 144,000 faithful Christians that existed prior to the 20th century"
Yep. This one is very strange. They completely ignore the actual scriptures and historical records that recount large numbers of followers and congregations during the first century and prior to the 3rd century.
....that fighting-fit young ukrainian men are having to be evacuated - to accommodation in dublin city centre?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqq2aj0lohu.
beats the rubber dinghies, i suppose..
You have to keep in mind the "Elites" in most places like young, healthy, moderately educated workers who have years of tax-paying ability ahead of them. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/refugees-by-country
Jesus Cano! That was a weird case! My housekeepers and Servant used to look around our rooms...and bookcase. A couple of housekeepers took breaks in my room and read my cookbooks. How in the world could a pedophile keep kiddie porn at Bethel?
mark writes.
"if a person accepts a blood transfusion, the jehovah’s witness elders are required to “investigate” to see if the person is sorry for “cowardly” saving their life.
if the person doesnt beg and grovel to the elders for allowing the doctor to save their life (or that of their child) then the elders can take this as a sign that he/she has disassociated from the congregation - and tell the congregation to start shunning them.. if someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual’s attitude.
For the last few years, most Hospitals (in California at least) severely restricted visitors...even direct family due to COVID. Unless someone really liked to flap their gums, how would the Elders even know who takes blood? Any JW who tattles on a blood recipient if they are a medical employee faces very serious government penalties and is open to civil lawsuits due to HIPAA violations. A minimum fine of 60k with maximum fines over a million can result. Does the Hospital Liason committee even exist after COVID?
the cult demands that the "sheeple" avoid anything which has "pagan origins," so for consistency, the wtbts should come clean and abandon the use of the pagan gregorian calendar, and adopt the biblical hebrew calendar.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gregorian_calendar#months.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hebrew_calendar.
The very foundations of the Watchtower are full of pagan symbols. Studies in the Scriptures are full of Pagan symbols and prophecy. Even the COVERS of Studies in the Scriptures the Egyptian Sun God RA and the wings of protection occur PROMENTLY.
2022-12-19--vaccination requirement.. .
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https://postimg.cc/xxvbcwdv .
As usual a great post 007 (Someone must be going nuts trying to track you down all these years) :)! Thanks, Atlantis! Happy Holidays to you too1 :)
