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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Rutherford and Knorr were "preppers".

  Many of GB 1.0 in the 70s went out in service alone in NYC. I remember seeing GB Brother Ganges (sp) doing magazine work ALONE in the subway station in the late 70s. Many GB 1.0 members had "traveling companions" for trips to their local NYC congregations in the 70s and 80s. Prudent, but not paranoid behavior IMO.

  I traveled into the fringes of Bed-Sty, a high crime low-income area of Government housing with a WT corporate member/GB "helper" weekly while at Bethel. GB member Ray Franz regularly went in service in a similar area with his Haitian Congregation. Another GB member (Sydlick) had a huge Golden Gloves ex-champ travel with him and his wife to meetings....

  "....about 15 million Americans are actively prepping right now. In terms of percentage of households, we are at or about to cross 10% of all households. And just a few years ago, that was 2% or 3%." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preppers-60-minutes-2022-11-06/
  

  The new Headquarters buildings remind me of a fortified Cult compound. I imagine process servers and Marshals have some difficulty serving papers. :)
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  Gestapo Tactics - the Wayne Rogers story

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://ajwrb.org/experiences/gestapo-tactics-the-wayne-rogers-story.

  gestapo tactics the wayne rogers storyposted on july 27, 2014 by lee elderfreedom of thought is a right that many people take for granted.

  there are many people who believe they have freedom of thought, but are mistaken.

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  Bringing this back up. This story was #1 on my JW Google news scan today. Is the victim a group member? Any updates?
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Balaamsass2

  The "bunker" mentality goes back to Rutherford. As a kid in the '60s, I remember public talks about preparing to go "underground" during "persecution and the use of reversible coats. In one talk, a school friend demonstrated his reversible coat and foldable hat on the stage during the hour talk by an Elder.

  Bethel had more tunnels than a rabbit family in the 70s.

  And of course, we can't forget GB 2.0's bunker fantasy.
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  Elders testing some promising men by talking like an apostate?

  by Person in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  couple years ago as a promising ms i had some weird conversations with two young elders.

  it was always as we where alone only i and the elder.

  they would initiate a conversations about things like blood doctrine, celebrating birthdays, view on homosexuality etc.

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  It is not unusual behavior for backstabers in any organization or cult.
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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  I had an old High School friend who is PIMO call me a couple of Sundays ago. He told me was enjoying a cocktail on the deck and throwing a ball for the dog..... while logged in (dark) on Zoom..."Attending" the meeting.....lol.
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  Numbers

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are they fudging there numbers to make it seem that there’s no decrease .

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  Since a cornerstone belief of Watchtower management is "Theocratic Strategy" (Lying), why would any member expect the truth? If the accounts reports before and during conventions are manipulated, why would the annual report be accurate?
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  Privacy commissioner orders North Okanagan Jehovah's Witnesses to hand over private records

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in b.c.

  , canada, a victory for ex-jws.

  https://infotel.ca/newsitem/privacy-commissioner-orders-north-okanagan-jehovahs-witnesses-to-hand-over-private-records/it92596.

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  British Columbia

  B.C. Jehovah's Witnesses lose court battle over disclosing records on 2 ex-members

  Documents about break with the church must be turned over to privacy commissioner, judge says.

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-jehovahs-witness-privacy-battle-1.7079252

  My favorite quote :) "The Jehovah's Witnesses had also argued that if the documents were disclosed, they might be published more widely "for the purposes of mocking either the petitioners or elders, causing unnecessary embarrassment."

  Might? lol!

  
  

  LET THE MOCKING BEGIN!!!!
  
  
  
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  $$$$ Watchtower is always trying to make a buck. Poor single parents are steered to Hotels that pay Watchtower an agent's commission, even if JWs have to drive 20 miles more versus very close hotels that refuses to participate giving Watchtower kickbacks.

  "Typical Commissions: The standard commission rate for hotel bookings falls in the range of 8% to 15% of the total room cost. This means that for every dollar the client spends on accommodation, a travel agent may earn anywhere from 8 to 15 cents as a commission."
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  Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

  sounded good.. what is the reality?

  how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

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  The initial story had a link explaining the rankings' strong connection to education. I think it is an important read to understand Watchtower's " indiscrete slaves" crime against young and old JWs' future long-term prospects.

  https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/business/economy/a-simple-equation-more-education-more-income.html?unlocked_article_code=1.L00.nC_T.lp65F39yDmCw&smid=url-share