They teach that Jehovah and Jesus are bad with money and confused about the future.
So JWs must send watchtower money and be ready for flip-flops in beliefs and prophecies. :)
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Balaamsass2
When it comes to disaster preparedness the Mormons have it together.
They prove they believe their end-times dogma by actually having solid plans and supplies for each congregation.
Watchtower doesn't even encourage halls to keep water, beans, and a few cots in storage. (They know their Dogma is BS).
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Im hearing some say that the Org is about to reverse the No Blood policy - about to change...
by BeaverEater inuh, i wonder if that is true... hearing this from friends within bethel... gonna laugh my ass of if they change this....
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Balaamsass2
Ditto on what Vidiot said. It's all about the $$$ bottom line.
It may become more "don't ask....don't tell".
When mom went to the hospital last time, we simply didn't tell anyone.
The HLC is a moronic circus of intrusive peeping toms.
I simply instructed Hospital admissions that ALL information was confidential.
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Does The WTS Have a Private Jet????
by uwishufish inor possibly pay hansomly for the use of some third party's?
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Balaamsass2
With all the court cases in small-town USA, I would expect Watchtower would at the least have access to some 6-seater planes, perhaps in co-op lease deals.
Shuttling Attorneys and paralegals around to multiple cases in rural areas on commercial airlines would be difficult.
(Of course not sticking their noses into criminal law, or appointing pedophiles in the first place, would be the most logical way to save money.)
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Assembly with the branch representative
by LaFrancia inwe had the meeting with the branch representative this weekend.. the air was different than usual.. bearded ushers at the parking lots welcomed the brothers warmly.. lots of sisters with dress pants or not, nothing scandalous.. the representative of the italian branch made his debut on stage with his full beard.. location: roseto degli abruzzi (italy-europe).
some interesting statistical data can give a little food for thought after the numerous changes that have occurred in recent months (the ten-year or five-year plan, if you prefer, seems to be producing some small results).. attendance has increased since the last meeting.. our constituency includes 1725 publishers and those present in the morning were 1553, a little better than the november 2023 convention.
perhaps the new changes have brought some back to attendance?.
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Balaamsass2
Thanks for the post La Francia!
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Assembly with the branch representative
by LaFrancia inwe had the meeting with the branch representative this weekend.. the air was different than usual.. bearded ushers at the parking lots welcomed the brothers warmly.. lots of sisters with dress pants or not, nothing scandalous.. the representative of the italian branch made his debut on stage with his full beard.. location: roseto degli abruzzi (italy-europe).
some interesting statistical data can give a little food for thought after the numerous changes that have occurred in recent months (the ten-year or five-year plan, if you prefer, seems to be producing some small results).. attendance has increased since the last meeting.. our constituency includes 1725 publishers and those present in the morning were 1553, a little better than the november 2023 convention.
perhaps the new changes have brought some back to attendance?.
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Balaamsass2
Not much choice for most JW youth about baptism. Any normal 12-year-old who asks obvious questions about Watchtower is liable to get grounded or sent to bed without dinner...or worse. (like "Where in the bible does it say that!?, or "Why do we have to contribute money if the governing body can predict the future? Don't they know what stocks will double this year? How is it elders are disfellowshiped when they are appointed by the holy spirit?) It is just easier for JW kids to keep their heads down, shut up, and get baptized.
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Former Jehovah's Witness youth lifts the veil on JW mental child abuse. NOT on JW.org.
by Balaamsass2 ini have personally seen witness families kick 15-year-old jw kids out of the home and into the street in california.
interesting read in daily mail.
former jehovah's witness lifts the lid on the brutal isolation he faced as a child being cut off from the real world - revealing how children are regularly shunned by their own families and thrown out of their homes if they 'stop believing'.
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I have PERSONALLY seen witness families kick 15-year-old JW kids out of the home and into the street in CALIFORNIA. Interesting read in Daily Mail.
Former Jehovah's Witness lifts the lid on the brutal isolation he faced as a child being cut off from the real world - revealing how CHILDREN are regularly shunned by their own families and thrown out of their homes if they 'stop believing'
11/23 "A former Jehovah's Witness has lifted the lid on the brutal isolation he faced as a child after being cut off from the world.
Owen Morgan, originally from Connecticut, appeared on a recent episode of the Cults To Consciousness podcast.
He described his experience as 'oppressive' and 'destructive' as part of a religion that 'ruined people's lives.'
Owen even went one step further in his expose as he claimed kids within the religion were regularly shunned by their own families and thrown out of their homes if they 'stop believing.'
+4View galleryOwen Morgan, originally from Connecticut, appeared on a recent episode of the Cults To Consciousness podcast
Owen, who was born into the religion, told host Shelise Ann Sola: 'Jehovah's Witnesses very much attempt to separate their members from everybody else because of one Bible verse that says you should live in the world but not be a part of it.
'So, of course, they take that opportunity to interpret that in the most extreme way imaginable and try to separate their members any way they can.'
+4View galleryHe described his experience as 'oppressive' and 'destructive'
He continued: 'When you're little you don't fully realize how negatively this is affecting you.
'You don't really realize it until after you exit and you see the world for what it is, you see what other people are doing and realize that you're missing out on a lot - not just missing out on fun but missing out on a piece of culture that you live in.'
Owen revealed that he was not allowed to celebrate holidays in the same way as everyone else, adding: 'I didn't get to celebrate my first Christmas until I was 18 years old when I finally ended up leaving the religion.
'I'm not a member anymore. I have no love for the religion I think it's absolutely terrible in every way. It's done irreparable harm to countless people - including myself.'
The content creator, who now has more than 386,000 subscribers on his own YouTube channel, explained how he had moved from Connecticut to West Virginia aged eight.
He said that it was there that he began getting home-schooled: 'I was completely socially isolated at that point.
+4View gallery+4View galleryOwen, who was born into the religion, told host Shelise Ann Sola: 'Jehovah's Witnesses very much attempt to separate their members from everybody else because of one Bible verse that says you should live in the world but not be a part of it'
'I was completely separated from the rest of society for four years and because of Jehovah's Witnesses I wasn't allowed to associate with other people.
'For a while, I was riding my bike to a neighbor's house and hanging out with them until my parents discovered that I was doing that and then took my bike away. I wasn't allowed to do that.
'I was only allowed to hang out with Jehovah's Witnesses and there weren't any around my age or wanted to hang out.'
Going into further detail about his upbringing, Owen said: 'Unfortunately for children, there's actually specific guidance for Jehovah's Witnesses on how they're supposed to treat children if they exited the religion.'
What is a Jehovah's Witness?
Jehovah's Witnesses are a Christian denomination with about 8.5million followers worldwide, who believes the destruction of the world is imminent.
They impose a strict moral code on members, including that homosexuality is a sin, and punishes those who deviate from their beliefs by 'disfellowshipping' them, ostracising them from the community.
He said that the methods were implemented on kids as young as eight, which was the earliest members usually got baptized in the religion, all the way up until 18.
'The guidance is absolutely psychotic, unsurprisingly...,' he said.
'Most Jehovah's Witness kids probably get baptized between the ages of 10 and 14. It's effectively a contract you're signing with this organization - a serious lifelong contract and the penalties for breaking it are dire.'
Owen adds that if a baptized child decides 'that it's not true, it's nonsense, he doesn't want anything to do with this or he wants to celebrate birthday parties at school and refuses not to - there are number of different mundane things that could get him disfellowshipped - his parents are expected to not eat dinner with him first of all.'
'There's a list of things you shouldn't be doing. You're not supposed to sit at the kitchen table with the kid, he should be eating the food in his room,' he said.
'They're not supposed to talk to them about any "spiritual matters" which means anything to do with Jehovah's Witnesses is absolutely off limits except for the father.
'The father - as the spiritual head - can try to continue to shove this stuff down the kid's throat.'
He said that if a teenage child began questioning the teachings, parents were 'supposed to do everything they can culturally - not officially - but culturally to get the kid out of the house.
'If there's a family member they can go to who's not Jehovah's Witness or whatever just get them out of the house at any cost...
'That's how it goes for Jehovah's Witness kids if they stop believing. It's over, it's absolutely ugly and disgusting, it's an evil practice.'
Owen said that he did not leave the religion under his own free will but was instead kicked out.
'I was doing stuff that you're not supposed to do - going to other people's houses who were worldly and I was drinking and just experimenting with stuff.
'I smoked a cigarette just learning how this stuff works and they called me in for a judicial committee because one of the other people in the congregation knew what I was up to.'
He said he 'admitted everything' but 'they said "okay that's it, you're out" and they kicked me out even though I was repentant.'
Owen was then also kicked out of his family home and ended up staying with a friend while working a part-time job at Burger King.
He said: 'I believed I was in the wrong. I believed my parents were correct in shunning me at the time.'
But he eventually found his feet and moved to New York with a child of his own, adding that he 'finally realized how nonsensical this stuff was.'
Owen concluded: 'Jehovah's Witnesses spent my entire life teaching me how wrong every other religion was and when I realized how wrong that religion was it was a short leap to walking away from all of it.'
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Advice on fade?
by NotNorwich inhello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.
i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.
was reinstated about a year ago.
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Balaamsass2
Welcome to the group!
Ditto on this advice: " Probably best if you continue to play the "MOM IS SICK" card and tell them your schedule is SO BUSY at the moment that you are SO STRESSED OUT. Thank them for their love and concern and promise you'll see them real soon -- just as soon as you are able to get back in person."
Remember: "out of sight... is out of mind".
Disappear graciously, without explanation.
Sometimes "moving" is easiest. Literally, or simply to another hall with "more convenient" meeting times.
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NOT on JW.org.: Author Jodie Chapman on growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness
by Balaamsass2 indoes anything sound familiar?
‘fiction opened my eyes’: author jodie chapman on growing up as a jehovah’s witness.
this article is more than 1 month old.
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Balaamsass2
Spot on:" Looking back, I struggle to think of books that would have been more shocking than the Bible. Babies’ heads dashed against rocks, entire nations murdered by an angry God, an upcoming worldwide genocide of billions … yet it is a tree with coloured lights that was deemed offensive."
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Will Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses suffer the same fate as the Catholic Church?
by Balaamsass2 innorthern california, 4/2/2024.
"sacramento catholic diocese files for bankruptcy reorganization in wake of abuse lawsuits".
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sacramento-catholic-diocese-files-bankruptcy-160421282.html.
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The area covered by this Bankruptcy is huge. A giant chunk of California, from Stockton north to the Oregon border.
