The final end for a JW Window Washer who took obedience to Watchtower to the extreme. :(
Balaamsass2
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Menlo Park Legal Advisor Tells All
by Juan Viejo2 insomeone sent me a link to the anoninsurrection youtube page.
i found eleven videos documenting an interview with the legal advisor for the former menlo park kingdom hall elders.
you can find them here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plszmu_qv0dgtco2wl5bnjdx12ny2_cmoo .. i've also published the entire set of eleven along with my comments on ex-jw.com.
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Article - New Zealand: Jehovah's Witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
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Balaamsass2
Andersons Info, Thanks for the post and update!
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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??
by minimus ingood pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
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Balaamsass2
Who knows?
NOT a rapist.
Not a FELON.
No bankruptcies.
Not a senior citizen white male. "Old White guy".
Has an odd manner and laugh.
Law Degree- educated w/above average IQ
Ex-DA, Ex-Cal Attorney General, ex-senator, ex-VP.
A Woman - an edge with 50% of the electorate. -Women's rights, glass ceiling, etc.
Part Asian/part black is a demographic plus with 40% of the electorate. -Non-White.
Under 60 a plus with 75% of the demographic. -Younger people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
Time will tell. Never underestimate tribalism.
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Reddit thread re Oct 2024 WT with picture of window washer - Theme knocking people who Planned
by LongHairGal inthis thread currently has over 300 comments.. it shows a picture of an older man washing a window looking wistfully… then it talks all about how some may have doubts about not having planned and the situation they are in now that they are older, etc.
it refers to others who did plan and who supposedly have ‘apparent’ financial security.
in my opinion, the whole gist of this article is to make older witnesses feel better who did not pursue a career or plan well for retirement.. it tries to imply that those others who planned only have ‘apparent’ financial security - which is to say they don’t (?).
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Balaamsass2
Today 60 to 80-year-old JWs are facing other financial hurdles. In addition to the extra 20 hrs a week of "Theocratic" activities devouring there spare time for the last 40 years, they experience the difficulties ALL Baby boomer retirees face.
The most-read story in the Wall Street Journal today explains these issues:
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America’s 60-Year-Olds Are Staring at Financial Peril
A bruising recession and the disappearance of pensions have left many young boomers financially exposed" "Shauna Sharpes doesn’t travel and grows much of her own food at her home in western Washington state. The payroll manager for a local Native American tribal authority has meager savings and expects she will have to keep working for at least the next decade.
Part of her challenge: She turned 60 in January, putting her at the tail end of a baby boom generation that is hurtling toward retirement age in uncertainty. Born in a midcentury, postwar America brimming with promise, many of the youngest boomers are still sporting financial bruises from the 2007-09 recession and the nation’s steady shift away from guaranteed pensions.
“The most important things for me right now are a place to live indoors, water and food,” said Sharpes, who has about $3,000 in her retirement accounts. “And thinking about how I’m going to provide that for myself from now until I drop dead.”
By the end of this year, the youngest baby boomers will all turn 60. The birth dates of those in this generation—around 70 million strong, or one in five Americans—cover a 19-year span stretching from the aftermath of World War II to 1964, the year the Beatles made their debut on the Ed Sullivan Show. " "Older Americans—including young boomers with retirement accounts powered by a booming stock market—remain a major force in the economy. Those 55 and up control nearly 70% of U.S. household wealth, Federal Reserve data show.
But that age group also includes older adults with little if any retirement funds socked away, or only Social Security to lean on, who are facing golden years laden with risk. For millions of younger boomers, who could live at least two more decades, a lost job or expensive medical problem could upend their stability while ramping up pressure on younger generations. " Older Americans—including young boomers with retirement accounts powered by a booming stock market—remain a major force in the economy. Those 55 and up control nearly 70% of U.S. household wealth, Federal Reserve data show.
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Reddit thread re Oct 2024 WT with picture of window washer - Theme knocking people who Planned
by LongHairGal inthis thread currently has over 300 comments.. it shows a picture of an older man washing a window looking wistfully… then it talks all about how some may have doubts about not having planned and the situation they are in now that they are older, etc.
it refers to others who did plan and who supposedly have ‘apparent’ financial security.
in my opinion, the whole gist of this article is to make older witnesses feel better who did not pursue a career or plan well for retirement.. it tries to imply that those others who planned only have ‘apparent’ financial security - which is to say they don’t (?).
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Balaamsass2
I clearly remember in the 70s a year after High School graduation being "counseled" by two elders and a Circuit Overseer on THREE occasions for "Materialism" i.e.: WORKING FULL TIME and not Pioneering, "because the end is any day now". At that time I was helping out my mom, grandparents, and trying to save a little for school. NOPE, not good enough if you want "congregation privileges"! So I buckled, believed I was wrong, started pioneering and eventually went to Bethel. Everyone but me profited and was happy. The Brothers who counseled me hired me P/T at a 30% discount (+no benefits) to what I had been making hourly from "Worldly employers" so I would have more "flexible" hours. THEY, the 2 elders benefited. Later, Bethel was happy because they got a skilled worker at a 90% discount of what I had been making and.. ZERO benefits. After a few years of worthless backslaps and hollow "honor", I quit the free/discount labor pool. Of course the Elders receiving the discounted labor were angry it ended, and Watchtower was angry the free labor tap was turned off. Bethel tried to pressure me to stay, claiming I was abandoning "Gods house" to go where the "greed was greater". Yep, no thanks for the volunteer labor, no kudos or thanks, ..just " you won't give us more free labor??!!".
Ten years later, in the 80s after attending JC. night school, and getting a job with a major Financial Corporation, a C.O. and two elders visited again to "council me" about my weekly contributions to the Company 401K pension, insurance, and an IRA. "This shows a lack of faith in the end being close!" "You are working in the center of Satan's Financial System!!!!" (My horrified first wife had shared my check stub w/deductions with the CO that "proved" I had no faith in the closeness of the END!)
Today, the two elders are are dead, their widows left in poverty. The COs are both dead, as are their wives. My overseers in Bethel ...DEAD... after being booted during Bethel downsizings. My EX wife, is a penniless 73 year JW "bag lady" who begs at Starbucks. The SAD fruits of those that ignore 6th grade math, simple logic, and the Bibles council to "go to the ant you lazy one".
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WATCHTOWER OCT '24: HOW TO BE A HAPPY WINDOW CLEANER
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/sbh213gbedo?si=ceeaip451t6i0zjp.
so as they say one picture is as strong as a thousand words and here you have it guys in the latest study edition of the watchtower for october 2024 that has just been posted on their website a middle aged jw window cleaner dreaming of the new system where things will get better.
why does the watchtower need to talk now about jws on minial self employed jobs?
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Balaamsass2
The problem isn't the "trade" ( window washing, painting, janitorial) it is the lack of using basic 6th-grade math and understanding you will be working for the rest of your active years.
If you know what your expenses will be after inflation, it is simply a matter of SAVING 10-20% of your weekly earnings and investing them wisely. It requires a pocket calculator and the ACCURATE knowledge you will probably be working for the next 40+ years and then be too old to work.
Believing Armageddon is any day now and you will soon pet tigers and Panda Bears forever is delusion....not logical, or solid financial planning. :)
As a senior, I am embarrassed to admit I was childlike, and I believed Watchtower BS for 50 YEARS !! It is like believing Santa Claus is real....as an adult. That is what makes me angry.
Here is the window-washing song :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc9J96f4cDk
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Awake 1976 - Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?
by Ron.W. inawake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.
somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.
anyone remember it?.
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Balaamsass2
I remember some of the first Calculators from HP. EXPENSIVE!
Wiki:" The first American-made pocket-sized calculator, the Bowmar 901B (popularly termed The Bowmar Brain), measuring 5.2 by 3.0 by 1.5 inches (132 mm × 76 mm × 38 mm), came out in the Autumn of 1971, with four functions and an eight-digit red LED display, for US$240, while in August 1972 the four-function Sinclair Executive became the first slimline pocket calculator measuring 5.4 by 2.2 by 0.35 inches (137.2 mm × 55.9 mm × 8.9 mm) and weighing 2.5 ounces (71 g). It retailed for around £79 (US$194 at the time)."
Blondie- you are right! "$240 in 1971 equals $1,849.72 in 2024." Wow!
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Ages of each user here?
by ukpimo ini'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
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Balaamsass2
Late 60s.
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The Book Study Group - Reminiscing
by ukpimo inany fond memories or funny stories relating to the old book study arrangement?.
i remember a time when a new sister turned up with very smart jacket and shirt.
yet she was wearing trousers and when questioned by everyone she said "blimey, i think geoff (her husband) is wearing my skirt!".
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Balaamsass2
I do have one very fond book study memory. About 26 years ago a cute 3rd Gen moved into town one block from the book study I conducted....she showed up and I was smitten. She never turned in her time on time, so I had to call her every month...for months. lol The rest is history. :)
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Balaamsass2
ThomasMoore,
lol. I don't remember the sink peeing admonishment. The rooms in the old 124 building didn't have bathrooms.... There were communal bathrooms like a college dorm. I shared the bathroom with GB member Dan Sidlick. (Somehow he felt it was ok to walk a few more feet and just randomly wander in and out of my room. (Strange).
I remember my 2-3rd day at Bethel at breakfast. GB/President Knorr gave a 10-minute announcement that 30+ Bethelites had just been summarily disfellowshipped and evicted for homosexuality after having a "massage party" !#!# WTH!!!???
Soon after I heard about the bestiality issues at the farm!?!?! Evidently, some fellows were using/misusing baby animals.... ugh
Having grown up adjacent to San Francisco I thought I had heard it all....NOPE.