what the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.
it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.
very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.
I believe there are many existing adherents to your new religion already.
I have a PIMO JW friend who calls every week. He belongs to this group "https://beroeans.net/ " They have Zoom meetings and STILL attend JW meetings!!!! Everyone "partakes." Some are current JW elders.
If you look at the last few years of JW "Partakers", especially in the third-world countries, I believe there is possibly already a "Shadow JW Religion".
an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.
the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.
I had a JW friend who was an Attorney. Watchtower almost drove him into bankruptcy asking for "favors" 24/7. He was happy to do it for free, but after a couple of years, it got really old. He closed his private practice, got a 9-5 job for a large corporation, and told Watchtower he could no longer help.
A family member who is a Para legal was asked to help as well. After two years of free labor. She left.
I imagine many professionals get tired of defending pedophiles for free.
today, my google search for jehovah's witnesses, delivered this result from the new york times.
great coverage and photos of all the real estate watchtower sold in new york city.
a great look back.
Today, my Google search for Jehovah's Witnesses, delivered this result from the New York Times. 1/29/2016. Great coverage and photos of all the Real Estate Watchtower sold in New York City. A great look back. Where is all the money???
no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.
no private home book studies.
no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.
Thanks, everyone, I appreciate the feedback.
The current religion bears little resemblance to the one I belonged to in my youth (1960s-1970s). I have talked to a number of older JWs who are dismayed by so many of the flip-flops.
I just GOOGLED "Jehovah's Witnesses" this morning and skimmed the first 5 pages of websites and news headlines. Watchtower PR dept is trying to bury the negative stories with arcane PR releases small papers use for filler on slow news days, but regular stories of child rape and other abuse cover-ups still show up on almost every page. It simply boggles my mind how/why so many rank-and-file JWs still attend at all.
I would love to have a peek at the donation figures. Money talks.
no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.
no private home book studies.
no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.
No more Watchtower and Awake mags every 2 weeks to place. No private home Book Studies. No more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week. No more counting of time. Pioneering requirements lowered. Kingdom Halls essentially closed for three years. No conventions/assemblies for three years. Zoom meetings one can attend ...or...not... in pajamas with a cocktail. Another "Spirit Anointed" Governing Body ("Tight pants" boozer Tony Morris) member was booted from Bethel headquarters. Continuous begging for money. The end is still....just....around...and.... around the corner....NOT. And more inspired flip-flops.
How is this affecting "still in" JWs you know? Does the local Kingdom Hall have any cars in the parking lots on Sundays? How many?
An old JW (PIMO) friend called today to say his local San Francisco Bay Area halls are only 30% filled now, and he has heard the same from halls all over California. What are you seeing and hearing?
there has already been much discussion about how the watchtower society has declared in australia that going door to door is part of a personal ministry.
this seems to be a lame attempt to avoid liability considering that they require time reports and have formal meetings for field service at the kingdom hall.. this is a bit of a dilemma.
reporting time and formal meetings for field service are important methods of control, however it's not clear if the organization is willing or able to handle the potential liability that may come from this.. imagine what would happen if they lost these methods of control.
Was this 11-year-old post prophetic???? lol.
our son joined the wts 20 years ago.
we, his parents and siblings are not jws.
he is now 41. he knew we were "opposers" from the beginning, and so we were pretty much shunned by him.
:) It appears congratulations may be in order. You have your family member back.
link to article .
a spanish court ordered the newspaper to publish the reply of the jehovah’s witnesses to a defamatory 2022 article.
the court found the newspaper has been fed false information by an association of disgruntled former witnesses and has uncritically published it.. .
Sounds like the story was true...but they should have allowed a rebuttal by WT.
what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
My advice to any current JW would be the same that was given to me when I was 18 in 1973 by a former WT Branch overseer ( a relative that I ignored at the time)..:" Do as Watchtower does ...not as they say".." Watchtower has 5-year building plans, gathers large savings accounts and continually invests in real estate". At the time I thought he was joking or had a bad attitude...but now I understand he was trying to save me.
I would add to that advice..if you can't afford to attend College full-time...go to JC College or night school regularly. It is more pleasant than evening meetings, and Saturday field service, and unlike meetings and field service, it will expand your mind and add to your pocketbook book...long term. I have a friend who chipped away at getting a law degree by going to night school for years. It was slow...but attainable.
this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
Persnickety.......BINGO..... we have a winner! lol. It is all about the $$$$$ SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!! :)
"Don't they require individual online donations now via a personal login and electronic debit? Doesn't this constitute "monitoring and keeping track of someone's donation?"
My mom a JW since 1936..always told me: " Hun, ...Always... donate by check..cause you can write it off...and at least one MS and an Elder or Two have to notice you keep their lights on". lol.
