lol DOC! "But, when they canceled their monthly donation, the elders were there in a New York second to check on them. Coincidence? Not likely."
"Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." :)
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Balaamsass2
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Prediction: no more changes for a long while
by slimboyfat ini’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
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Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.
by greenhornet inmany years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.
imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .
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lol. Years ago, we had a car group working in Atherton CA (Huge Silicon Valley Estates).
I remember some JWs talking about "this being my home after the big A"....the homeowner was quietly gardening behind a brick wall and called them on it. They stammered, attempting to reply. :)
I laughed my ass off about it at the coffee shop later.
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Watchtower hires off-duty law enforcement
by Diogenesister inan indignant law enforcement officer wrote kim & mikey to let them know watchtower had placed an advertisement on a facebook page dedicated to law enforcement staff only, looking to hire a fully uniformed and armed officer at $35 per hour.
the commission was for the memorial in a specified texan venue.. the officer was particularly miffed at the hypocrisy considering the terrible way law enforcement was portrayed in the 2018 convention video, where the jws had been herded into a field to be slaughtered by a large group of officers.
not to mention the fact they are only too willing to call police for their own protection, yet won’t do so when it comes to protecting children from potential or actual abuse.. https://youtu.be/-rpcsztnvyo.
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lol. I remember in the mid-70s when the NO COPS rules were made. Headquarters decided if they did not resign, they would lose all congregation privileges.
I grew up with lots of JW cops in my hometown. City Police, Deputy Sheriffs, State Police, and even an FBI agent. A few had to walk away from years of service and great pensions to remain Elders. Some stepped down from JW positions.
The Society had no issues asking for "favors" from them when it suited them. Armed Guarding Convention cash was one.
One real turnabout was that a "respected" married Elder was busted by an EX servant, now publisher, Detective, for molesting some young boys in a nearby Congregation.
That's Watchtower...looking good on the outside, but filthy inside.
Looking back, I think GB 1.0 Jaracz was behind that policy (a suspected child molester).
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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How does this fit into Watchtower Chronology?
Gobekli Tepe: The World’s First Temple?
Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey’s stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization.
"Six miles from Urfa, an ancient city in southeastern Turkey, Klaus Schmidt has made one of the most startling archaeological discoveries of our time: massive carved stones about 11,000 years old, crafted and arranged by prehistoric people who had not yet developed metal tools or even pottery. The megaliths predate Stonehenge by some 6,000 years. The place is called Gobekli Tepe, and Schmidt, a German archaeologist who has been working here more than a decade, is convinced it's the site of the world's oldest temple."
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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The entire basis of 3 of the world's most common religions is Abraham. A desert goat herder who "heard god talking to him in the desert" while he was....alone... God told him they were best buds, his seed would become countless, and he had to kill his son. He went back to his tent and convinced everyone he was God's chosen friend.
Think about it. If a tent-dwelling goat herder told you he was God's chosen one...because ONLY he heard voices in the desert....would you plan your entire life and your kids on what he said? If so....you can find many "Abrahams" at your nearest homeless camp this week smoking "herb", while they tell you how the last psychiatrist who treated them didn't know what he was talking about.
Look at Watchtower's printed chronology. Following it would get you an F in any accredited college class in History, Archaeology, Anthropology, Geology, or Paleontology. Adam's creation date? The earliest cities? The "Flood" and its date and scope?
It would be better to discuss how many buttons "Santa" has on his tunic. IMO.
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Murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer before leading meeting. Spiritual paradise?
by Balaamsass2 in1/31/2024 in the strange but true category.
confused holy spirit appoints killer servant.
"" a twisted jehovah's witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met.
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It looks like the "Holy Spirit" and the branch office appointed another spiritually qualified man to lead the flock and "care" for their "needs". At least he got cleaned up early...you can't be late for a meeting!
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Murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer before leading meeting. Spiritual paradise?
by Balaamsass2 in1/31/2024 in the strange but true category.
confused holy spirit appoints killer servant.
"" a twisted jehovah's witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met.
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1/31/2024 In the strange but true category. Confused Holy Spirit appoints killer servant. "" A twisted Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met. "
"Cowboy builder Peter Norgrove, 43, was recorded whistling as he packed away his tools as victim Sharon Gordon, who he was doing work for, lay dying – and that evening the Jehovah’s Witness led a service for worshippers via Zoom at the local Kingdom Hall.
The court heard that Ms Gordon had been introduced to Norgrove - who had recently retrained as a builder - by a friend, and commissioned him to build a ground-floor extension after he successfully undertook some fencing work for her.
But a job that he estimated would take between four and six weeks ended up talking 15 months, and was still not finished when he finally killed her, a judge was told this afternoon.
Norgrove took a lump hammer and gloves to the property in Dudley, West Midlands, which he donned before killing her last July.
Ms Gordon, 58, suffered at least eight blows to the head in what a judge described as a ‘brutal and savage attack’, and lay dying at the foot of her staircase for up to an hour following the attack.
Do you know Peter Norgrove? Email [email protected]
+12View galleryCowboy builder Peter Norgrove can be seen with blood on his trousers as he cleans away his tools after he beat his victim to death
+12View galleryNorgrove had been commissioned to build a ground-floor extension after he successfully undertook some fencing work for Ms Gordon
+12View galleryNorgrove is pictured before the crime without blood on his trousers after putting on a pair of gloves
Peter Norgrove, 43, (left) was then recorded whistling as he packed away his tools as victim Sharon Gordon (right) lay dying
How murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer witen whistled a before leading a service for worshippers just hours later at the church where they met
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Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.
by Balaamsass2 in3/28/2024 central california coast.
found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.
ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".
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Re-read Blondies post.
Watchtower has abused a few Bible passages to the detriment of the "flock", children, and seniors. They have institutionalized the belief members must avoid "Ceasars" protections, ie, the Police, District Attorneys, and Courts.
Watchtower hid behind these teachings to protect themselves from fraudulent "borrowing programs" from members...that they then refused to repay... guaranteeing to disfellowship if a JW victim brought charges against Watchtower. This happened to my Mother-in-law.
Many elders also misapplied these scriptures to ALL loans, sales, Domestic violence, and rape.
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How many different "rules" do Jehovah's Witnesses have to obey? Can you count them?
by Balaamsass2 inall the big changes for jws since this last fall brought me back to this site, and got me and the wife talking.
just how many things were we not allowed to do growing up as jehovah's witnesses?
we were so used to all the rules, customs, and traditions, that we became used to them.. one site i found claims there are 141 unique rules!!
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About ridiculous JW "rules". If the rule is not a serious sin worthy of disfellowshipping....Pointing out publicly the rule is ridiculous...or arguing with the elders about it is "walking disorderly", "brazen conduct", "rebellion" or "apostasy"- all charges that will get you disfellowshipped!
Every JW kid learns to apologize with their head down, or say "So and so must be "mistaken" or "Heard me wrong". Or fall back on "who said that"....(the 2 witness rule...false testimony) deny and counter allege routine.
