Posts by Paris

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Israel's Defense

by Paris in

this is interesting.

lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

Contained within their own borders, there are many Islamic States and atheist dictatorships, including Communist China ruled by an atheist unelected elite class of self appointed absolute authority, (like the Governing Body).

The occupation of one country by another, is the very definition of history. We oocupy Native Lands, China occupies Tibet and its Western Region whose inhabitants want to secede. Syria occupies Lebanon. Saudia Arabia is ruled by one family who cannot be voted out of office and relegates women to stone age status. (much like the WTBS)

Africa was colonized and its resources plundered for hundreds of years and its unity broken. America imported living human beings and used them as slaves for 300 years and that only ended in 1865 , a second ago , in history. No one has any right to point the finger at Israel as some illegitimate upstart with no right to exist on this planet.

Haters need someone to hate. These exjw forums seem to be full of haters of Israel and finding ammunition is easier that sorting out truth in a rational discussion. Describing the Democray of Israel as a founded by "terrorists" is not rational or truth based or factual, or anything but misinformation and hate motivated. If you want to hate terrorists look at what ISIS is doing right now as we speak.

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Israel's Defense

by Paris in

this is interesting.

lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

Paris

Israel is not attacking its neighbors. Jordan and Israel are at Peace. Israel and Egypt are working together. Israel and Lebanon have peaceful relations. The UN Patition of 1947 divide the land into essentially two States. As soon as the UN troops left in 1948 , Arab armies invaded Israel, not the other way around.

The land Israel was allotted was purchased as swamp and desert from Egyptian landowners and Lebanese landowners over a period of 30 years by the worldwide Zionist movement. The actual people who lived there were not land owners they were tenants, renters, leaseholders. Many stayed and became Israeli citizens, many left and became refugees because other Arab nations would not allow them into their countries.

Now ? The answer ? Peace among Arabs, peace among Muslim sects, unity and establishing a Palestinian State, with an actual government, functioning, with a Legal Systems, Courts of Law, Houses of Parliament, Departments of Sanitation, Ministry of Health and Education, Public Buildings, Department of Engineers and Architects, Water and Plumbing. Social Housing. Infrastructure.

The only infrastructure they have was built by Israel, not because billion of dollars didn't flow into the Palestinian Authority, but because they mis-spent it and stole it, as in Arafats wife living in Paris France on a budget of $100,000 a month. And hiding money in Swiss Banks and claiming poverty. Mis-management and corruption. In fighting. This is what has prevented a Democratic State of Palestine from developing. That and the concentration of all resources on the sole purpose of the destruction of Israel. Israel, which is a scrap of land 3/4 the size of Vancouver Island. Its insane waste.

The fact there are ex jws here, amazes me that they have so much hostility to the idea of Zion or Israel as a State. Since its mentioned all over their Bibles, as is Jerusalem, like a permeating theme, and it extends into the scriptures written after the death of Christ, as in Romans 11th chapter where Paul says Israel is the main root and tree and Christians are only grafted in, so that Israel is the recipient of the new covenant, not the Gentiles. God never breaks his covenant with them.

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Israel's Defense

by Paris in

this is interesting.

lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

Paris

Did you watch this report ? At all ? Hamas is the attacker and refuses to stop firing missiles.

Israel is NOT an exclusive Jewish population. I am not sure where you are getting your information. There are 1,658,000 Israeli citizens who are Arabs, mostly Muslims, also including Arab Christians and Druze, Israeli by citizenship, living in Israel, voting and sitting in government. Did you know that ?

Media in Canada and US are pro Palestinian even though official government positions in the UK, Europe and America is that Hamas and Hezbola are terrorist organizations. Like ISIS. These Islamic organizations advocate Islamic Caliphates, which is based on religion. ISIS is systematically beheading all non Muslims in its path, they way the original Mohammedans/Muslims did in the 7th and 8th century whe they took over Europe and all the Middle east, North Africa and most of Asia, by armies who slaughtered anyone who would not "convert".

The territories and lands held by the Palestinian Authority have been given billions in foreign aid, all which was used to enrich Arafat and his cronies. The Gaza also recieved foreign aid and infrastructure help and could have spent the money building a nation and establishing thier own State. In the Gaza, they chose to elect a government whose sole purpose is the destruction of Israel. Israel withdrew from the Gaza, remember ?

Israel dragged it own settlers out of the area and made it exclusively under Palesitinian control, the billions the Gaza has received in funding is spent to buy weapons, rockets, missles, dig tunnels and wage endless war against Israel, instead of concentrating on peaceful self development. Israel is not the aggressor. The media coverage does not favor Israel as defending itself but paints it as the aggressor when it is Hamas that is the aggressor and ruins its own people in the process of its own agenda.

Palestinian is a name from the Latin used by the Romans, meaning Philistine. Some poster claimed they were "the lost 10 tribes of Israel" Genome Project Studies do not support this and they are not any "lost 10 tribes" they are descendant of the ancient Philistines, mentioned in the Bible. Misinformation is posted on many of these forums some claiming they get their information straight from Jesus talking to them.

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Israel's Defense

by Paris in

this is interesting.

lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

Paris

This is interesting. Lots of posts praising and defending Palestinians

I have yet to see one post from anyone defending Israel.

So here is a very angry man attacking Israel's conduct in the Gaza

and the clear articulate response of Israel's position.

http://news.sky.com/story/1315105/israel-denies-targeting-hospitals-in-gaza-strip

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Will reserrected Gays and Lesbians have to give up homosexuality in order to stay in the new system?

by booker-t in

jw
friends

do jws believe that if a gay or lesbian is reserrected after the great trib he or she will have to give up homosexuality in order to live..

Paris

Will there be meetings ? And men in charge ? I don't want to go please. Can I just turn into an invisble light ray and float around the universe ? Like the universe shown by the Hubble telescope ?

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/

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Calling all Bethelites

by Nadsam in

when you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!

stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!

)longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !

Paris

I guess these posts were all from men ? And it was about when you were young ? Being YOUNG has a lot to do with enjoying practically anything. I feel sorry for the old men who wasted their lives there and have nothing to show for it. Young, full of energy and surrounded with other people, it has nothing to do with religion guys, or "being in the truth" its just youth that enabled you to survive. How thoughtless of the GB though, that were no basketball courts, exercise rooms, pool tables, swimming pool, movie theater, or recreation planned. They even have those things in a Penitentiary.

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Volunteering.

by Jeannette in

since i left the watchtower a couple of years ago, i started volunteering 3 hours a week at a wecare center.

it's like goodwill.

well, i've been there approximately 9 months, and yesterday i received a lovely thank you card from them.

Paris

I've been volunteering for Watchtower for 40 years and all I got from them was a couple of attempts to kick my derrierre. Jeannette

I am sorry - but this statement made me burst out laughing. Its so true.

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Need help understanding scriptues in Mathew. just trying to show my wife the BORG is soooo wrong

by goingthruthemotions in

as you know i am still in but have no strong conviction for this cult..but i still go because my wife is still asleep to the false teachings.

for a few months now...when we have family study it is stricly from the bible.

which is great, while we study we are taking the bible as it is, i think it is opening her eyes and how important jesus is.

Paris

The WTBS teaches nothing unbiblical that I know of.

Apparently you never read Crisis of Conscience ? It takes a whole book to go into every "unbiblical" thing the WTBS teaches. Please read it, download it online and just read it.

The original question was about understanding scriptures in Matthew ? You don't have to attack the Bible or reject God to indentify the WTBS as corporation whose "work" is; to market itself. The WTBS makes the claim they are getting special information straight from God channeled through seven men and formerly through their past presidents. This is the issue you might want to concentrate on.

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Wife and Kids at Meeting

by lambsbottom in

so wife and kids went to meeting while i stayed home because i am on a religious cleanse.

i feel really sad and lonely but i know that it is for the best.. on a side note, doe anyone here still agree with jw doctrines?

trinity being false?

Paris

Mum - yes I am an ex-jw, ex-pioneer

lambsbottom- I hesitate to point to any particular church. There are moderate churches with reasonable humanists who concentrate on helping others. There is hope and positive action going on, contrary to what the WT will tell you. Millenium Project for one. See You Tube for what this project is doing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfc75qPRj2Q changing Africa one village at a time. Also for hope to answer atheists, read Answering the new Atheism, Dismantling Dawkins' Case Against God by Scott Hahn and Benjamin Wiker. Education is always helpful for clear thinking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYLuajObY4

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Wife and Kids at Meeting

by lambsbottom in

so wife and kids went to meeting while i stayed home because i am on a religious cleanse.

i feel really sad and lonely but i know that it is for the best.. on a side note, doe anyone here still agree with jw doctrines?

trinity being false?

Paris

If you need to unravel deeply ingrained beliefs from a very good and careful source, you need to read Crisis of Conscience, for a start. You can download this book as a pdf for free or get it at a library or I think they sell it on Amazon. Disproving WT doctrines is so essential for someone like yourself. Lots of people who consider themselves Christians, do not believe in Hell, for a starter. And you do not have to give up your faith in God to leave the Watchtower. There are rational Christians. Don't worry, your on your way.