Posts by Paris

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

Paris

Kickback, these weapons exert force that can only be controlled by full grown men with muscles in their arms and chest and back and strong shoulders, this was a little girl, with skinny little arms and no muscle control to handle such a weapon. Its criminal negligence. Recoil sent the weapon over her head. It was Kickback and muzzle climb she could not control. Because she is a nine year old girl, a child. Its a strength, control, issue. With this weapon its way beyond finger control. The weapon exerts force and moves with force against the person handling it.

The weapon recoiled, the muzzle climbed and it kicked back, against her and the weapon rose above her head as she was incapable of controlling it because she was not strong enough, and its on tape so no clairvoyant required.

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

Paris

Shirley - American ? Republican ? She was a tiny, frail, small, child. her parents and the firing range and the instructor all all at fault and the laws that allow people to arm children. How is it we are horrified by using child soldiers in Africa and set up whole organizations to stop this and then hand lethal weapons to children in the United States ?

An Uzi is not a hunting weapon or even a self defense weapon.

it it a Miltary Grade, blowback-operated submachine gun used by Special Forces in combat.

Blowback is a system of operation for self-loading firearms that obtains energy from the motion of the cartridge case as it is pushed to the rear by expanding gases created by the ignition of the propellant charge. The energy from the expansion of gases on firing appears in the form of kinetic energy transmitted to the bolt mechanism, which is controlled and used to operate the firearm's operation cycle. The extent to which blowback is employed largely depends on the manner used to control the movement of the bolt and the proportion of energy drawn from other systems of operation

Does this sound like a child's toy to you ?

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Really weird sentence

by Moses Joe in

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i've been absent from meetings recently because i'm having serious life challenges that make me really not want to have to deal with all of the people and the sitting.

i had made an attempt to, "simplify my life" that rather than being blessed was meant with unemployment.

lol.. anyway, i finally got tired of all the phone calls checking up on me and sent a message to someone explaining that i just wanted to be left alone (an elder).

Paris

Shirely - I meant the total disappearance act as a metaphor for disengagement.

Datadog - may consider the fact your wife actually does value you above her friends and life in the WT. Have you read Crisis of Conscience ? May be she is not an atheist ( I am assuming you are? ) may be she could be gradually convinced that there is another better, path to God. If she could see this is possible and will save her children from a Cult ? If killing yourself has become an option, how could being open and honest about your feelings be any worse ? It would be a positive project to work on and somehow insincerity is detectable by children on a subliminal level and creates serious trust issues they carry throughout their own lives. Be honest.

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I got asked THE QUESTION !!

by Tech49 in

a little experience that happened very recently:.

another brother, an elder, and i were talking, i was explaining to him and giving him several examples of how a couple of the elders in our congregation were blatantly trying to run their own show, parading themselves around as "representatives" of the body, when the other brothers didnt know what the hell they were talking about.

they are using their "elder powers" to bully and push people around, causing a bit of angst and hurt feelings.

Paris

Well, when you realize that "Jehovah" IS the organization by Oubliette

Your first premise is false. Jehovah is NOT the "organization" even they do not believe that. They believe the organization is necessary to approach God and they believe Jehovah is God. So the organization and the GB in particular are held up as a Mediator.

The organization followers. believes the organization itself, to be a conduit a vehicle, a passage, a gateway, a sole channel, to access Jehovah, a path that is exclusive and the only way to God himself.

The GB or FDS claim to be the WAY to access God and they claim to hold an exclusive positipon of being put in charge of all spiritual matters on earth and also claim to be the only mediator by which anyone can approach God.

That is blasphemy and false doctrine, arrogance and it is idolatry to accept the so-called FDS as being who they claim to be. There is no scriptural spport for this "system" of worship as practiced by the WT. Its an anti-Christ Cult.

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I got asked THE QUESTION !!

by Tech49 in

a little experience that happened very recently:.

another brother, an elder, and i were talking, i was explaining to him and giving him several examples of how a couple of the elders in our congregation were blatantly trying to run their own show, parading themselves around as "representatives" of the body, when the other brothers didnt know what the hell they were talking about.

they are using their "elder powers" to bully and push people around, causing a bit of angst and hurt feelings.

Paris

don't you agree that Jehovah is directing his organization right here on earth through his FDS, the governing body, and the elders?

No I do not agree because the word "organization" does not appear in the Bible at all. Jesus Christ is my only mediator because the Bibe says there is only one mediator, the Christ. Any man or group of men who puts themselve between me and the Christ is an anti-Christ, blocking my access to salvation. The FDS has only one scripture to support the idea of a central authority and that scripture was about three servants who were given gold resources and held accountable for whether they used what they had or buried it in the ground and applies to everybody and has no reference to central authority as represented in seven old men in New York. - try that answer

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Really weird sentence

by Moses Joe in

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i've been absent from meetings recently because i'm having serious life challenges that make me really not want to have to deal with all of the people and the sitting.

i had made an attempt to, "simplify my life" that rather than being blessed was meant with unemployment.

lol.. anyway, i finally got tired of all the phone calls checking up on me and sent a message to someone explaining that i just wanted to be left alone (an elder).

Paris

Do not communicate with the Cult. Change your phone number and if possible your name and locate to a different State, or country if possible. Just pack up your car with essential belongings and get out of town and keep driving. Do not look back.

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Did You Believe That You Were Going To Live Forever?

by minimus in

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in either heaven or earth?.

Paris

The JW "New World" would be like North Korea with babbling brooks and piles of fruit and the same old meetings and magazines and judicial committees and lists of rules and elders to enforce them. It would be like one big prison camp your were held captive in for a thousand years.

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

Paris

What gets me aboout this video is even after the instructor is shot in the head the big macho owner of this range is still confident his policy of giving an uzi to 9 yearold was just fine and explains they give guns to five year olds. Its the power of delusion. It always amazes me. I saw a news report of a Pit Bull, family pet, who killed its owner's wife and unborn child and the husband, stating it was not the dog or the breed even though 282 people in the last eight years have been killed by Pit Bulls mostly their owners and owner's children in their homes by pet Pit Bulls who were treated like family. Delusion, these Pit Bull advocates will still insist they are harmless.

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Is Faith Immoral?

by Coded Logic in

when people willfully believe something without evidence, or contrary to evidence, are they neglecting thier moral responsibility?

so many people say faith is a virtue but i just can't comprehend why anyone would think that.

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Paris

Faith is Hope, expectation of good things, without it you may as well kill yourself. Faith is the source of joy. Faith in oursleves, our loved ones, in the future, which itself is unknown and unprovable. Don't you have faith your team will win ? Doesn't that create excitement ? Faith in God is faith in the future of all things eternally continuing and us being a part of it. Faith is good. Faith is necessary for our survival in any form that is even worth living. Every day of your life you live in faith.

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the insanity of Sam herds talks at the convention

by purrpurr in

i've picked up two that stood out to me but i'm sure others will have noticed more:.

he gave an illustration about fearing god and he said it is like a wife who has spent all day preparing the evening meal for her husband and she hears him come home and perhaps she is trembling a bit out of fear that he might not like the meal she has cooked for him....!!!!!!!!????.

the other was about verbal abuse and how it should not be used but rather than site the effect it has or the forms it can take he said that we shouldn't call each other " dumb dumb" or "knuckle head" .

Paris

Konceptual - If Herd was accepted as "humble" after this kind of speech, it speaks more to the deep rooted sexism in this organization. The people at this assembly, remember, believe him to be under "special guidance" and a special "set apart Pope like person" who channels God himself. Its a Cult. These people are acting like Cult members, if he told them to go home and kill their first born they would happily do it.