if i read it will i get depressed ? I sure am about the lack of concern for global warming , all i can think of is that in 15 years when my grandchild is going to be a mom, and my son has kids, the world will be a disaster environmentally, and then the 6th extinction.
sowhatnow
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This should be an interesting book to read
by Doug Mason ini have not yet read this book, but it should be interesting:.
"the better angels of our nature: why violence has declined", steven pinker.. the publicity blurb states:.
"believe it or not, today we may be living in the most peaceful moment in our species' existence.
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If Halloween, Christmas, Birthdays, Thanksgiving became all of a sudden acceptable, would you be ready to join up?
by Quarterback inhow fast do you think the wt would grow if all these celebrations were no longer an issue?.
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sowhatnow
no, because they lied ruined my life and control peoples logic, and disfellowship.
im going to my granddaughters bd party for the first time shes going to be 13.
ill never do halloween, i wont 'do' christmas but enjoy pretty lights and family dinners, [not that we ever attended any]
and the holiday spirit of just being nice. I might get my only grandchild a gift, maybe.
most of my family are jws so they dont bother with us, my husbands family wont bother with us
because being jws in the past we never bothered with thier family dinners so they never invited us.
my husband wants a turkey dinner, but we have no one to invite. yet.
more work for me. yay!
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Has anyone actually read the study wt for sun nov 2nd????!!!
by stuckinarut2 ino m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).
if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!
so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?
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sowhatnow
my mom told me yesterday, 'you need to read this weeks study article, its shows us how to know if we have the truth.'
and so I GUESS I better humor her, and have a laugh myself, better arm myself with two highlighters, and a note book, and some tylenol...
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sowhatnow
hmm, so they had insider info way back then that wireless technology was on its way. secret society non the less..
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What would be your favorite job if you could do anything.?
by new hope and happiness inon the basis that most of us realise the w.t wasnt really the best " job" or way to spend our days, it would be fun to find out what people would really have liked to have done with there lifes and if this is still possible.
or maybe its not even a very realistic ambition just a dream.
in my dreams i stay at home all day and make a living from being a professional artist.maybe i need a phycholgist?.
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sowhatnow
i always thought it would be fun to produce a ice scating show
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Circuit assembly symposium: help those who have become inactive
by rosyray ini just discovered that the circuit assembly my family is attending tomorrow contains a symposium entitled:.
help others to seek jehovah's righteousness: those who have become inactive.
i poked around a bit on here and didn't find any comments about this.
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sowhatnow
oh damn, my mom is going to that tomorrow, after she said to me on the phone last night
'you have really sunk to the bottom not believing in genesis'
thanks for the warning.
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Next time a JW tells you that you shouldn't let your children go to college ...
by EdenOne intell them this:.
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sowhatnow
lol, then within one generation the wt will cease to exsist, because the members will all make minimum wage and have no money for service kingdom hall donations, and if none of them get married, then they will have no children.
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Does The State Have The Right To Quarantine Someone Because They Might Have Ebola?
by minimus inno doubt you have heard about the nurse that thumbed her nose to the state and went out of the house in spite of being ordered to stay at home.
what is your opinion on this?.
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sowhatnow
shes after attention, in no way is staying home for a week or so going to kill her and it would make people rest easy
but here is an interesting take on that,
on cracked.com they have an article entitled 4 types of ebola panic that are secretly racsist.
id paste the link but dont know how to do that on this site.
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How to Bewilder a Witness!
by The Searcher inask a witness what seems like a simple bible question: "nine verses in the bible tell us that jesus is going to judge the living and the dead.
(john 5:28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.
5:10, 2 tim.
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sowhatnow
I ve read a logical explanation a while ago that said the 'living' were those of the house of israel,
or Gods chosen people, and the dead are everyone else.
perhaps 'dead' in works or the deeds.
good question, but hey jw arent allowed to question, because not too many have an answer to give, they have trouble defending thier beliefs.
I ask why the apostle paul never spoke about a future faithfull slave that christ was going to choose to be his mediator. or the 144,000.
the bible has many many contadictions because its wasnt a first hand account of anything, there were no litteral witnesses who wrote things down as they happened. it was stories handed down then written down. matthew mark luke and john all have contradictions, and yet some scriptures are exactly the same scritpure, showing that someone was copying word for word another account.
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Where is Jesus *RIGHT NOW*?
by kairos inlet's say he began ruling in 1914.. where is that rulership?.
i'm hoping this line of thought gets someone thinking.. .
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sowhatnow
i read this last night and was amazed that i did not see it before this is just some of it the link for the whole article is over at jwfacts on the subject of faithful and descreet slave
[apparently he hasnt come yet, according to the wt, becasue they are still doing memorial, which was to cease when he came.]
but this was the most interesting parts to me.
One must wonder, if God truly appointed the Governing Body to dispense truth since 1919, why it took them 93 years to dispense the truth about this doctrine.
What is remarkable about this teaching is that in 1981 the Watchtower described this very concept, that only the leaders represent the Slave class, as deceptive and from objectors; in other words, it was an apostate teaching.
"Witnesses of Jehovah understand that the "slave" is comprised of all anointed Christians as a group on earth at any given time during the 19 centuries since Pentecost. Accordingly, the "domestics" are these followers of Christ as individuals.
Some readers may feel that this is a rather sectarian view of matters. Or they may object to the idea that the "slave" and the "domestics" represent the same class, one as a composite body and the other as individuals. The objectors may argue that not all of Christ's anointed disciples have a share in preparing the spiritual food, so that perhaps the "slave" pictures only the leading ones, and the "domestics" those they serve in the congregation.
There is no point in trying to force an interpretation of the parable. Self-deception is of no benefit and is spiritually damaging. Therefore, we must look to the Scriptures for an understanding. In doing this, what do we find?
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Thus we see a clear Scriptural basis for saying that all anointed followers of Christ Jesus make up God's "servant," with Jesus as its Master." Watchtower 1981 Mar 1 pp.24-26
Consequences
The Watchtower claims the Slave has been given all authority.
"The facts of modern history show that in the year 1919 [Jesus] revived these much afflicted disciples and gathered them together in a united body. Then he appointed them as his “slave” class “over all his belongings,” that is, over all his royal interests at the earth." Watchtower 1971 Dec 15 p.750
This is not what was intended by the Scriptures. The Bible states that the appointment over all the belongings is made after the master arrives.
Matthew 24:46,47 "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving (erchomai) finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings."
The master has not yet arrived, as the memorial is to cease on his arrival, and so the Slave has not been appointed over all the belongings.
1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives (erchomai)."
The leaders have prematurely seized control for themselves, and consolidated that control. The 2012 version of the doctrine leaves Christians uncared for between 33 CE and 1919 CE, and elevates the exclusivity and importance of Governing Body. This is in contrast to the parable, which indicates that at this time the elders are to be shepherds of the congregation.
One would expect that the definition for one of Jehovah's Witnesses to be a person that worships Jehovah. However, the defining concept to being a Jehovah's Witness is not worship of Jehovah, but rather following the "faithful and discreet slave." In a judicial committee, the foremost question is not whether a Witness believes the Bible or worships Jehovah, but whether they believe God is using the Watchtower Faithful and Discreet Slave in our day. If a person believes in the Bible and Jehovah, they will still be disfellowshipped as an apostate if they openly confess that the Watchtower leaders do not represent Jehovah's slave.
The Governing Body has managed to deflect attention from Jesus by means of their doctrine that Jesus is mediator for the Slave class alone, and that salvation can only be achieved through association with the Slave.
"He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members. " Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) pp.10-11
"Jesus knew that he was going to purchase these anointed ones with his own blood, so he fittingly referred to them collectively as his slave." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16