Posts by sowhatnow

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Everlasting Life on Paradise Earth - My musings of why it cannot be true

by leaving_quietly in

actually, just one musing.. there are a number of scriptures that wtbts uses to support their doctrine of everlasting life on paradise earth.

the vast majority come from the hebrew scriptures.

using just one verse, i believe i can disprove this doctrine quite soundly.. the verse is john 6:68.. simon peter answered him: lord, whom shall we go away to?

sowhatnow

well , the way i see it, according to 2 corinthians 12 vs 2 and 4 paradise is in the third heaven.

and jesus said you will be with me in paradise, which is apparently in heaven.[interestingly he said that to a criminal, but hey, he believed jesus was lord, so he got saved right then and there]

and in Matthew ch 24 vs 35 says heaven and earth will pass away [because men will ruin he earth, and so they must be ruined too] but his words will not,

so when he comes, no one will know anyway, [like in Noah's day, no one knew it came, until the flood came and they all died , see no one told them, they were not warned they were already judged as bad.]

two women grinding at the mill, he takes one and leaves the other, he read the heart apparently and knows who to take,

and then the earth i guess will be burned up and there will be a new heavens and earth in which righteousness is to dwell.

so do we need to fight? can we hide in a cave [pointing a gun at whoever] ? no. but oddly, the bible also says lift up your heads and see ,

something , bla bla bla, so whatever .

but i asked someone once, where does it say in the bible that people will survive or live through Armageddon? they survive a tribulation, but Armageddon is a place. not an event.if its Gods war, its not ours right?

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Recommended Lodging List

by piztjw in

just a few instructions orders from mother about motels.. please use only hotels that appear on the recommended lodging list.

(one page, with only one motel locally).

one nights deposit (credit card, money order, etc.,) is required, and should be sent to the hotel within ten days of making your reservation.

sowhatnow

growing up my mother was always too poor to pay for hotels.

we got to stay at real peoples homes.

for free.

when and why did that ever stop? that's how people could have made some friends.

my mom always offered her two bedrooms for every convention in our city. and the co stayed at our house a lot. and my dad wasnt even a witness . he tolerated it.

[ but deep inside I knew he did not like it.]

the last few conventions i went to i just drove back and forth over the three days or two then one. cost too much for a hotel. could never sleep in those things.

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Have we been visited by alien's?

by crazyguy1 in

there is a tribe in west african called the dogon, their mythology states that their gods came from a dark star that orbits around sirius.

they claim this star went nova then condensed so that its now super dense.

they have on their cave walls drawings of jupiter and its 4 moons and saturn with its rings.

sowhatnow

Im not eliminating anything at this point! some weird crap has happened in this world.

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The Noah's ark : What a nonsense!

by coalize in

1. a shitty start we don't have to wait more than 4 verses of genesis 6 to put our feet in a big stinky bullshit :.

consequently, jehovah saw that mans wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.

jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened.

sowhatnow

yea really, were better than God? that we wouldn't have done anything the way he did, lol

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no one will know...

by sowhatnow in

read here: what jesus says at matthew 24 .

36 but about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son,[f] but only the father.

37 as it was in the days of noah, so it will be at the coming of the son of man.

sowhatnow

read here: what jesus says at matthew 24

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

now it says that in the days of noah, no one knew anything until the flood swept them away.

they were not preached to, and they had no idea. it just suddenly happened. because God already knew from examining their hearts or thier dna, that they were wicked and there was no use doing any warning.

so now, according to that no one is going to know when Jesus second coming is. suddenly they will just see him coming on a cloud. one will be taken the other left.

so Jesus is going to come and take those whom he sees to be righteous. he will leave those sinful humans on earth and once again destroy them.

so, the great tribulation, [having already happened] is not something we need to look to happen nor fear.

Our Judge, Jesus will judge each of us individually according to our deeds and decide if he wants to take us to apparently his heavenly kingdom.

Now supposing the bible is in fact from God, Id reason that when we die, is pretty sudden and unexpected, and at that time we are then judged according to how we lived.

but lets say for all of us half believers out there, what would this symbolically mean then?

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The Noah's ark : What a nonsense!

by coalize in

1. a shitty start we don't have to wait more than 4 verses of genesis 6 to put our feet in a big stinky bullshit :.

consequently, jehovah saw that mans wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.

jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened.

sowhatnow

i dont know what to think about that , but this link from an older post was good reading.

http://awgue.weebly.com/does-jehovahs-witnesses-blood-policy-reflect-they-understand-noahs-flood.html

there are other equally good articles there.

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Memories. .. share the earliest or most favorite childhood memory

by MissFit in

my daughter tells me that experts say children tend to have false memories.

apparently their brain tends to fill things in that may not be totally accurate.. i refuse to believe that my favorite and comforting memory might not be true.

so here is to fond memories real or not.. the earliest memory i have is being put in a crib at a preschool.

sowhatnow

aww i remember them

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What do Jehovah's Witnesses look like to Non-Cult members

by Watchtower-Free in

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sowhatnow

when my son stopped going to meetings, a few years later he was approached by two jws handing out memorial tracts in a parking lot, he said it was 'uncomfortable and weird'

and now he knows how everyone else feels about that! he was mad that he ever had to do that to make people feel so odd.

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Using Third-World Poverty-Stricken Witnesses To Guilt More Donations Video, Where is that Video?

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

i heard about a new video where the watchtower has a single mother and her child eating millet or rice with almost no material possessions worried about donating to the world wide work.

now most religions are trying to donate to third-world countries, not the watchtower profit enterprise, they are willing to take a families last milk cow so their leaders can spend those funds fighting pedophile lawsuits!.

every place the watchtower builds you read about the angry citizens having to pick up their tax bills because the watchtower only takes!

sowhatnow

ok ok break it up boys, lol.

lets not put words in anyone's mouths.

heres the thing, one person will experience something and never see what others experience, and so we assume.

for decades, so many jws never have a single bit of controversy in their lives and cant imagine anyone else having issues that are not of their own making. they have flawed reasoning, obvious imperfection.

for example my mother is convinced that when people that are jws get into situations that result in hardship, shes sure they are not trusting in jehovah and doing what they're supposed to do, whatever that is.

well one day i asked her, gee mom, you mean all these years I wasnt trusting in God, my service was fake, my meeting attendance was fake, and that's why I have an unloving marriage and no friends?

I guess you lack faith too since things aren't the way you want, huh mom? she gets where im going

and usually changes the subject. stupid logic she has. no ones lives are perfect.

Ive lived long enough to see jws in my area never have anything other than some health problems cramp thier style, but then again, Im not a fly on the wall, who knows what demons they hide inside.

its all a facade. who are the real people behind the label?

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Memories. .. share the earliest or most favorite childhood memory

by MissFit in

my daughter tells me that experts say children tend to have false memories.

apparently their brain tends to fill things in that may not be totally accurate.. i refuse to believe that my favorite and comforting memory might not be true.

so here is to fond memories real or not.. the earliest memory i have is being put in a crib at a preschool.

sowhatnow

id say the same sort of crib memory . in my mom and dads first apartment, i remember what the whole thing looked like, the layout. i remember my mom and dad fighting and my dad punching a hole in the wall, i was not yet 2. and i remember at age 4 having a spirit visit my bedside. twice. and floating down the stairs in that apartment.

dreams for a toddler of that nature? hmm