Posts by kairos

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Why I Refuse to Accept the term APOSTATE

by Black Man in

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been going back in forth with my mom (who is a longtime pioneer and dyed-in-the-wool jw) about the term apostate.

she has labeled me one because of my fading and because i stopped attending meetings a few years ago.

i told her that i refuse to accept the term apostate because its a lazy way for the wts to not deal with dissenters and address why people are leaving this organization in droves.

kairos

I like reflecting on the fact that witnesses are thrilled if you openly become an apostate from your former church to join theirs...

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To be or not to be Anointed: it's all a bunch of lies and make belief anyways

by goingthruthemotions in

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i always thought that when someone says they are anointed or the anointed....it has and still does conjour up the image of dungeons and dragons.

all fantasy!!!!!!.

it's all make belief and bulls&&t !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

kairos

It's always entertaining when a questionable witness of many years suddenly get their act together and starts partaking.

Then they become the subject of the local gossip. "Did you hear that so-and-so is partaking?"

By far, the ultimate experience of one of the annointed goes like this:

Man abandons his wife and three children, DF'd and goes on to live as a homosexual for 20 years.

Comes back and is now partaking. So awesome!

Clowns.

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hi, had some strange things happen this week that have made me ponder what on earth is going on with the man made organisation.. 1/ while picking up some train tickets i was approached by a young man with an ipad of sorts who engaged me in a chap and then asked to show me a new website i asked what he was trying to sell or promote he assured me that he was selling nothing the website he showed me was jw.org so i quickly said so you are promoting an organisation with a brand name similar to how a christian would promote jesus and the bible he looked confused but then said yes, so i said that i thought that to be quite shamefull, he froze for a bit and didnt comment so i asked is this new symbol a trade mark of some marketting firm to which he said "no we are jehovahs witnesses" no one else was around so not sure of the "we" but anyway i said if god has given us the bible whats with a website that produces snippets out the bible with an opinion on the meaning he avoided the question and asked me what i believed in so i said my religions leeders dont let me discuss belief with anybody so i obey,listen to them and dont question he said "you have been blessed by j with a brain and freedom of thought to look and question" i said ok but i think its strange that you use a name for god thats perhaps made up by man, blindly follow and dont question a group of self appointed men as well as showing signs of idoatory to an organisation that has pushed jesus to one side, at this he suddenly he had to dash off.

2/ when out shopping i was apprehended by a group of people with a stand giving free literature and promoting the jw.org website so i had had to ask whats with this name change after all these years and are you a similar religion to the catholic church which led to a chat about how the catholic religion is false and how they wickedly have covered up sex abuse!

i didnt bite on this one but asked if birth control was banned in the jw.org religion a lady stepped forward and explained that it was cruel and not biblical to ban contreception i said i had been shown a bit in the bible that gives rise to this ban and she said they(catholic church) dont understand the bible and use it to control and miss inform people so i replied similar to how your organisation bans blood and birthdays by misinterpreting the bible i went on to say that i believe the organisation to be hypocritical,false , cult like and shamefull how it covers up sex abuse i also got in that the organisation had totally corrupted its self with its un membership and also with the sheer amount of false prophecy over its relatively short history at which the senior man at the table politely told me if i wasnt interested in the literature to be on my way and that hopefully i would mature enough to let jehovah into my heart before it was to late and that he felt sorry for me and the people i obviously associated with.

kairos

I liked the post.

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TV.JW.Org - Streamed to KHs via the New Projectors

by passwordprotected in

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i read here recently that the khs are being instructed to buy and install projector systems.. now that we've seen the launch of of tv.jw.org we can fully expect public talks to - on a monthly basis at least - be replaced by content streamed from the site to the screens in khs.. .

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kairos

This must be the big news that is supposed to bring us back to the meetings.

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my first post! (long read sorry in advance)

by Letts Party in

long time lurker, first time poster here finally looking to get some things off my chest.

i've always been a very curious person with tons of questions about everything, and i also care deeply particularly about societal issues like social injustice, racism, and homophobia.

that, coupled with how boneheaded all the elders in my congregation are (except for one), led me to ask even more questions that led me to find ttatt.. .

kairos

Thanks for posting.

"Lett's Party" is a total crack-up name! Made my day.

Getting out takes time. I made the mistake in saying too much too soon to my still in wife.

Reminds me of when we first got the "truth" and said too much too soon and drove all of our "worldly friends" away from us.

Dial it back. Be patient. Ask for your wife's view on "bible understanding" without using WT publications.

Have her put it in writing and to take her time. Be willing to hear her out and beware the tendancy to insult her faith or the ORG as this will be taken personally. Give her as much time as she needs. ( a year or longer if that is what it takes ).

It's taken me four years to get where I am today, don't expect here to wake up overnight.

Your story has little pieces of all of us in it to some degree. Thanks for taking the time to post it here.

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Where Are You on The Witno Scale?

by tresdecu in

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1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.

3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.

4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).

kairos

5, no doubt.

Faded from about two years ago. Definately gone.

( unless I recieve "New Light", then all bets are off )

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Why do you come here?

by love2Bworldly in

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i come here to learn, but i also come here because it feels like a private club and i'm privy to be a member of the "in" crowd.

it's a great place to socialize.

does anyone else feel that they are a member of a special "club" when they come here, that only some people in this world will understand the jw world?.

kairos

Leaving the Watchtower was one of the most difficult and painful experiences I have ever faced in life.

I come here every day to veryify that I have not made the wrong choice by waking up.

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Reflections - Updating MD card - did you stop updating?

by berrygerry in

i finally removed my md card from my wallet yesterday.. although we were encouraged to create a new card annually, i had an internal hesitation, and a lack of enthusiam for it, as well as the meaningless cards for my kids.. the card that was pulled from my wallet was dated 1994. i obviously had some unconscious, if not conscious, problems with the borg, maybe with the 1995 generations bs.. did others stop updating their cards long before exiting?.

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kairos

I bet signing and maintaining one's "Advanced Medical Directives" is near the top of the list of first things stopped by nearly everyone that leaves.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was done subconsiously by most, either.

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Reflections - Updating MD card - did you stop updating?

by berrygerry in

i finally removed my md card from my wallet yesterday.. although we were encouraged to create a new card annually, i had an internal hesitation, and a lack of enthusiam for it, as well as the meaningless cards for my kids.. the card that was pulled from my wallet was dated 1994. i obviously had some unconscious, if not conscious, problems with the borg, maybe with the 1995 generations bs.. did others stop updating their cards long before exiting?.

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kairos

Last signed card was in '99.
The last meeting I attended was the "Annual" in 2013...

I alreay had started disobeying 15 years ago and didn't even know it yet.

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problems on site

by kairos in

i can only post a new topic.

not able to reply to any.

~ also, i cannot see past the first page of any given topic list or thread with more than one page of content.

kairos

Hmmm.

Now everything is back to normal.

I guess I should have posted three days ago...