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  Where has all the money gone?

  by gingerbread in

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  2. friends

  a number of years ago when i was still active, our service group was having a coffee break with the visiting circuit overseer.

  during the conversation he mentioned that the "society" was now being run like a business.

  being raised in the "truth" i thought that rather odd (and my eyes began to be opened!

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  I think we'll find out more to this story sooner than later.
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  Any funny stories of when a"brother" giving a talk, said something "funny" or "questionable", and didn't even realize it?

  by Dunedain in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there were always all types of speakers in the org.

  myself, growing up a "witness", must have heard all types of talks, and given by all manner of speakers, especially on sundays, when almost every week we would get a "visiting" brother giving the public talk.. sometimes, you would have a "great" speaker, all fluent and animated.

  other times we would get a comical speaker, one who would maybe purposelly get a few laughs outta the audience.

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  kairos

  The S.H.I.T. story.

  That happened in my area, too.
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  Should I be mad?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

  ( just "serving" napa ).

  so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

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  kairos

  I agree and disagree with all of the comments...

  It was mixed signals coming from a 70 year old born-in.
  The confusion must be baffling for her.

  "Why would he leave Jehovah and all of us?"
  "What is it that is more valuable than everlasting life?"

  On the other hand, the very last thing I ever said to her was regarding the 1947 article on the pagan origins of shunning and the 1953 article implementing it as the "loving arrangement that it is".

  ( I highly doubt she is waking up, but she must have raging doubts as she lived through 1975 )
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  As a Matter of Conscience, I Am Resigning from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Sail Away in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.

  as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.

  i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.

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  kairos

  I wish I did this.

  So much more fun than the way I did it...

  Has anyone contacted you?
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  Should I be mad?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

  ( just "serving" napa ).

  so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

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  kairos

  I've been blamed for "throwing everyone away".

  This is my fault.

  My actions make them shun me.

  I've been ignored by most local JWs for the past 2.5 years anyway.
  I'm glad to be rid of them all for the most part.
  Just a few of my wife's family and a few so-so friends that I miss on ocasion.

  I've been building a network of "worldly" friends since 2004.
  Leaving was fairly simple, it was staying off the elder's radar that was my downfall. If it weren't for my wife's feelings, I would have done crazy things. I'm glad I didn't, although a secretly recorded J/C with nothing but humiliating traps for the elders would have been special.

  Bottom line, I told my wife, no more unauthorized contact!

  Either shun or don't. No more mixed signals.
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  Should I be mad?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

  ( just "serving" napa ).

  so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

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  kairos

  Considering that she is the wife of the very eldurr that got the whole "he's an apostate" ball rolling.

  They have known me for 20 years. We have been on family trips, camping, etc for all this time. They know I'm not a "bad" guy.

  I think the only hope they have is that I will "humble myself" before it is too late.

  I get little snips of "so and so" said they love you or said "hello" and in this case, sent soup especially for me.

  Shun or don't, but don't lead me along thinking that you might snap out of it. That's probably not the right attitude.
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  Should I be mad?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

  ( just "serving" napa ).

  so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

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  kairos

  My wife told me how much her family loves me and is in "so much pain".

  I had to just say it's because they are in a CULT!
  I explained than shunning is amongst some of the cruelest conduct one can engage in.

  Then the nerve to call it "love".
  

  I told her that they treat me like they hate me.
  ( we'll never speak to you again until you get re-instated )
  That will never happen.
  ( Unless "someone holy" visits me with the straight scoop )

  I got the look of: "does. not. compute."
  
  
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  Should I be mad?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.

  ( just "serving" napa ).

  so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.

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  kairos

  I've been DF'd for about six weeks now.
  No one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".
  That's the way notorious CO Paul Kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is JW shunning. ( Just "serving" Napa )

  So, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me...

  Well, I got super pissed. Caused a big fight and the rage against this filthy cult is at a high note.

  If we had a normal relationship, this would be fine, but this was like getting an invitation to attend something great and at the end it says, "by the way, you aren't really invited".

  What am I supposed to do, she's been shunning her own daughter for the last 10 years. Am I supposed to call and thank her for the soup?

  I'm thinking this must be some maniacal effort to lure me back to the KH.

  I told my wife I thought it was cruel. I don't need soup, I'd like a relationship.
  I almost dumped it straight into the garbage.

  Shunning is stupid.

  SO. Would you be mad?
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  My mom

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just talking to my mom a few weeks ago.

  she said, out of all her kids, i was the only one she didn't have to worry about as far as spirituality.

  i always took a stand for jehovah.. she told when all of her kids were little, she gave us the option of not eating birthday cakes in school.

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  kairos

  some on this board are too hasty and mess things up others don't say a thing and stay in.

  This is true.
  I thought I may have blown it in my case. At first...
  I am so glad to be fully out, away and free of this very toxic group.

  Everyone will do their own thing.

  Telling our story is good for healing.

  ( all of us )
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  Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.

  how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.

  how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.

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  kairos

  The hypocrisy was so amazing in my old hall here in Napa.

  It was an endless parade of drama and power struggles, cliques and just overall meddling. Some criminal activity happened that was completely ignored by the BOE and two COs.

  It got to be where even after finally resigning as a MS after nearly 10 years I could no longer tolerate the meetings any longer. Sometimes I would have to leave during the final song or prayer because I was starting to cry it felt so wrong being there. I didn't want to draw any unwanted attention to myself, so I started slipping out early and then abruptly quit. I tried for my wife's sake to make a return after a few months. It was not working and the meeting where the "Silver Sword" was released would be my last.

  After I quit attending, then started obsessive researching on the internet. 2-10 hours a day- every day- for over a year.

  I woke up quick and had a pretty solid fade going until I made serious of amazing an unusual moves ( from a human stand point ) and found myself DF'd for "admitted apostasy" about a month ago~

  Glad to be out and returning to normalcy.