Posts by kairos

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The Watchtower Org will die.

by Freeandclear in

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i was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?

etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.

i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.

kairos

@skedaddle.

I agree with you. The CSA situation is too much.
The general population will take note of this.

For a few reasons:

Despicable crime, evidence of systemic cover-up and in my opinion, the most damning... The self righteous stance the JWs have taken for all of these years regarding 'good conduct' and 'moral reputation' that makes the JWs set aside as "God's special people". Nope, JWs will be seen as glaring hypocrites, pointing the finger, but missing the FACT they they were indeed amongst the worst of the worst.

When the time comes, as even the most devout JWs cannot admit to being members anymore, it will have already ended for watchtower.

I believe it already is over, myself. It's just the final dividing up of the assets ( that's clearly visible in the mass sell offs and cost cutting measures that the GB themselves are sharing with us on the broadcasts ).

Show's over...

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Saturday Morning Vibes

by freemindfade in

its saturday morning here on the east coast of america.

i haven't been out in service in probably getting close to two years.

i wake up every saturday extremely happy and thankful im not getting up to go f-ck up my morning and my neighbors morning, not today, not ever again.

kairos

It's been over two years since I've had to waste my Saturday morning.

Today was amazing. First rehearsal of four, before a nine show stage production of "Guys an Dolls" at the local community college...

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Watchtower: You Made us Apostates!!

by kairos in

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if you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss ttatt.. watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from?

( old light ).

why, oh why, back in 1989 when i first got hooked did i not do any research into the watchtower corporation?.

kairos

I have never seen more changes with the org in all the time I was member of 25 years. How can the current membership take it?

We've seen many new people signing up and posting here.
The org is still asking for money, worldwide increase is almost zero, if not already in free fall.

I do expect a mass exodus.
The timing is right and the full power if the internet is now available to all that want to research.

I'm glad I'm an apostate!!

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There is No Reason to be Afraid!! ( of Freedom )

by kairos in

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thinking of leaving the jws for good is frightening.engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!there can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.. one must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.yes, that kind.

where you always make the decisions in your own life.. no need to be reckless and wild to destruction.

be like almost everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.

kairos

Just reflecting.

Yes, losing what I thought was the best way of life and moving on was the right decision.

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In this case, the grass actually is greener,
outside the JWs

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Do your own research. Prove to yourself that we were taught lies and were made to teach it to others. Attach more value to your one and only life and act accordingly.

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Your feelings for the former travelling overseers

by Hecce in

during our wt life we met a good number of friends involved in the circuit and district work.

i am sure that we share the same experience and that we remember fondly some that we caring, loving and generally interested in the brothers.

at the same time we might remember others that were arrogant, selfish, abusive and oppressive.

kairos

Paul Kohler has been 'serving' the circuit that takes in Napa, Fairfield and Vacaville, Cal for some time now.

I should record some of his future talks over the phone.
He sounds defeated. He's getting old and all of the congs he visits has a similar problem, Elders dying off.

He did one of those, 'we're proud of our years in the truth' moments last time.
"How many of you have been baptized for 5, years, 10, 20, 30, " so on and so on. I think that backfired last time, because many in my wife's hall are in the 40-50 years "in the truth" bracket.

Kohler realized he's not alone in the delusion. He sees the faces of the elderly sheep he barely knows and has to keep secrets from them or the whole house of cards collapses. So he's ramped up the DFing 'decree', as he calls it. He also likes to use the term 'being put out' of the organization.

His talks are littered with FOG. Fear , obligation and guilt.
The programming is doing it's job and it is sickening.

Someone actually mentioned coming into the org right before 1975 in their comments while he was visiting. They know they've all been duped. Overlapping generations, 102 years after the birth of the kingdom doesn't build confidence, does it?

Yes, the same Paul Kohler of Menlo Park fame...

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Had a wonderful visit with Mr and Mrs Flipper Sat.

by 3rdgen in

i haven't posted much lately because i got a new job at the end of nov. and it's taken much of my time and mental energy.

i still read though and care for you all very much so i thought i should let you know about the meet-up i had yesterday with mr and mrs flipper.. hubby got a call the day before from flipper saying he and his wife were going to visit his mother (who is in a rest home in my town) and would we like to meet up for coffee?

hubby couldn't make it but i was delighted to accept.. we picked a burger place not far from the rest home and where i knew jdubs don't usually hang out on saturdays.

kairos

In April things will lighten up for me and I want to make some trips.

A pre-Tahoe Apost-a-palooza might be just what some of us need ( me ).

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Had a wonderful visit with Mr and Mrs Flipper Sat.

by 3rdgen in

i haven't posted much lately because i got a new job at the end of nov. and it's taken much of my time and mental energy.

i still read though and care for you all very much so i thought i should let you know about the meet-up i had yesterday with mr and mrs flipper.. hubby got a call the day before from flipper saying he and his wife were going to visit his mother (who is in a rest home in my town) and would we like to meet up for coffee?

hubby couldn't make it but i was delighted to accept.. we picked a burger place not far from the rest home and where i knew jdubs don't usually hang out on saturdays.

kairos

I would like to meet -up soon, too.

Can't wait 'til July in Tahoe!

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Need to vent: My loathing for the JW cult increases more and more, while my wife clings more and more to it

by goingthruthemotions in

just as i think my loathing for the jw cult has peaked, it goes higher and higher.

i wish this cult would just go away.

i wish my wife would just wake up.

kairos

Same spot here.

Wife is going to the assembly tomorrow.
She is happy to be a JW.

I think it's disgusting. I try hard to keep the peace.
I even help her get ready sometimes if she is running late.

I hope she wakes up. I'm nervous she will blame me for ruining her 'faith', though. I can't face that. Her hating me because I showed her the truth.

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I lied to the elders

by atacrossroads in

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i stopped attending meetings all together in january 2015. before that my attendance was irregular at best.

my husband followed suit a few months ago after months of research, agony, and indecision on his part.

from the very beginning i laid low and did not share with anyone what i found out about the witnesses because i did not want to be df'd.

kairos

be prepared for an invite by certified mail.

Either ignore them completely and go on into freedom or do a really nice hidden video with a very well scripted series of comments that will leave them looking foolish.

your call

I walked away, middle finger extended.

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Queued for Processing ....

by cofty in

if a new topic hangs for ages with spinning icon at "queued for processing " should you give up and post a new copy of the thread or will the eventually result in two threads?.

if it has cleared the first tick "uploading post" can you safely click away from the page?.

servers seem a bit slow recently?.

kairos

my recommendation is to copy the longer posts before submitting.

If you are not sure if the post was loaded, reload the page.

If it's there, great.
If not, make the post again by pasting the copied version into a new post.

I realize I've forgotten to do this after i lose a longer or "Special", in my mind, post. It's a good habit to get into.