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  Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide

  by RedPillPopper in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

  thanks for any info.. .

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  kairos

  I'm enjoying your posts.

  We need to catch up.

  
  
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  An Elder Reads CoC !!

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have recently joined the site.

  i was just appointed an elder this summer.

  i started discovering the ttatt (the truth about the truth) last year after putting a few things together myself concerning the leadership and then doing some research online.. i really enjoyed jwfacts.com, jwsurvey, and others.

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  kairos

  Excellent story and replies.

  
  
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  But, no one has ever ACTUALLY "Witnessed Jehovah"!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?.

  the name of the group is a lie!!.

  we all announced and taught that we were "jehovah's witnesses".. i'm struggling to find more words right now..

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  kairos

  I am willing to look at any proof or evidence.
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  Need to vent: Wife just went in full cult mode, huge fight. she is so brainwashed

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  out of the blue my wife started to ask me about my feeling about the borg.

  i told her i didn't want to talk about it...she persisted.

  she already knows how i feel, i told her that my biggest beef is that they use mind control, and yep she went in to how i was an apostate and how she doesn't want to be married to an apostate.

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  kairos

  I'm very sorry to hear of this development.

  This was my fear. 

  
  

  I hope this works out.
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  Losing Faith

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've always been a "spiritual" person.

  i've been an avid bible reader since as early as i can remember.

  i read the bible cover to cover for the first time when i was about 17 years old and have read it at least twice more since then.

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  kairos

  Welcome!

  Research is key to successfully undoing the effects of brainwashing/mind control. I must have been spending 3-6 hours a day for a number of months until finding new topics to cover became more effort.

  Proving to yourself, using the passage of time and the WT publications as tools makes it simple to show what WT really is.

  
  

  PM's are of course, always welcome.
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  In my mind, I expected her to be happy to see me and thrilled to hear that  I also am not attending. Boy, was I wrong.

  The replies here seem to indicate this mindset she has is likely normal. Really sad to see the darker side of mind control.
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  Seeing these people is a real eye opener.

  We were all like them as well to varying degrees, but mind control was the active ingredient, yes.

  I could imagine seeing myself using the same old tired arguments and circular reasoning just 3-4 short years ago. That's the bigger revelation hear, past self examine.
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  A couple other little details I left out from earlier:

  She asked if my wife and I were still together and if she was still a JW. ( This is crazy, but JW normal ). I told her that my wife and I are indeed still together and our relationship improved after I left. She  was having a hard time believing me. She expected that my still in wife, to her relief, didn't leave me.

  
  

  Also, I reassured her that she is still a human, I will not shun her.
  She looked offended, afraid or nervous. It was hard to tell.

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  Thanks for the reply comments. I'm interested in hearing more folks' experiences.

  
  

  
  
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  kairos

  Wow, what a surprise that was!

  I expected a warm welcome, as this was someone I have known for a very long time.

  Nope, Uber disfellowshipped JW. Totally caught me off guard. Reminded me she is disfellowshipped and expected me to leave her, shunned. I told her I didn't care about that and had come to see her. This person has been out for at least a year, maybe longer and still hasn't corrected  her "sinful course". I was told how she was looking forward to visiting with "the friends" again. She took full responsibility for the DFing.

  It was really eye opening. I told her I quit attending the meetings nearly two years ago. This made her sad. She was NOT interested in hearing any TTATT commentary. I zipped in a quick one about the UN NGO membership. She had never heard anything about it and would not open her mind to the possibility that this could in fact be true. Said she would have read about it ( referring to the WT, I expect ) and made comments that indicates she has no trust for the media.

  She is trying to get her life together and return to "the organization", as she put it. Attends all the meetings. Endures the shunning as necessary. Proper.

  I've never seen this first hand. A glimpse into the life of a DF'd person that accepts and cooperates with the Watchtower, intent on returning and getting "spiritually strong" again. The whole while, praising Jehovah.

  
  

  How could you be out and not research the JW's on the internet? It's not like they'll DF you again.
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  How would you respond?!?!?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an eldub recently said, " sure, we have changed many beliefs in the last 100 years, but christendom has had 2,000 years to clean up their act an they haven't done it.".

  this was prompted by today's wt session which mentioned nathan knorr's eager acceptance of rutherford's refinements concerning the 1,260 days.

  of course, he also said that he can't really keep up with everything.

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  kairos

  Splash, thank you for the references.