Posts by davidmitchell

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Guardian article

by davidmitchell in

this lengthy article was in yesterday's 'guardian', a national uk newspaper.

(comments following thearticle are interesting!):.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon.

davidmitchell

This lengthy article was in yesterday's 'Guardian', a national UK newspaper. (Comments following thearticle are interesting!):

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon

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The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.

by smiddy in

the bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .

does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.

so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.

davidmitchell

Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes, that he would instruct born again believers into all the ways of truth.

The problem with this is that all these born-again Christians, supposedly guided directly by the Spirit, cannot agree amongst themselves, thus resulting in many many hundreds of different denominations and sects.

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Will the resurrected marry/have children?

by davidmitchell in

i have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.

in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.

he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.

davidmitchell

Splash - many thanks. I've taken a copy of your message. Extremely useful!

How people will live and function post-A has got to be one of the most important aspects of the whole subject. It's pathetic that the WT cannot give a straight answer to this. How many widows/widowers Witnesses are looking forward to being reunited with their now-dead spouse and are unaware of this damning anomaly in WT teaching?

This returns to the point I made about 'Talon's' comment in his book - he rightly says that most WT pictures of the post-A paradise show couples and children and yet in fact the WT appears to believe that the only people who will be able to marry/be married, and have children are the Witness survivors of Armageddon, and they will be are in a minority of the total number who will eventually (and supposedly) inhabit 'the new earth'.

This also begs the question of the state of those (the majority) who cannot marry - will they spend eternity bursting for sex, or will Jehovah completely remove all their sex urges? If so, then the WT can hardly claim that Jehovah has resurrected all those who never heard the WT message as their resurrected state does not resemble their original state as an important human drive has been removed. In reality, it would seem that the post-Armageddon world will be mainly inhabited by a-sexual people....

This is 'Paradise'????....

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Will the resurrected marry/have children?

by davidmitchell in

i have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.

in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.

he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.

davidmitchell

i have just finished reading 'Brock Talon's' two books. In one of them, entitled Journey to God's House, pub. 2013, (pp.168-175),. he comments on how the WT's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children. As it is only JWs who survive the big A who can have children, the many pictures of (many) happy family groups are disputable.

I've never thought about this, but on going to the WT site, in one (2014) article, theyappear to be distancing themselves from the view that anyone physically resurrected will not marry/have children:

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/jesus-sadducees-marriage-after-resurrection/

The article admits that the Bible does not give a direct answer (sheeesh! it's hardly a minor point!) and 'we will just have to wait and see' (you're in for a long wait!...).

As a postscript, I am surprised that with all the information he gives about himself, the person who wrote these books - giving himself the pseudonym 'Brock Talon', has not been identified! I enjoyed them although I have to admit that I found Penton's and Franz's books much more enlightening.

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The Power Of "IF"

by dubstepped in

so, the whole may money grab episode of jwtv really looks bad to me and many others, obviously many here.

i was looking on another website dedicated to active jw's and if you'll notice on post number 109 a little ways down (<click there to read) a person named luca dares to express some concerns over the latest episode.

the following pages do contain one more person that has some issue with how things were presented.

davidmitchell

I do believe that lots of spiritual food has been dispensed.

I assume you are joking???

Newspaper article

by davidmitchell in

boy, 7, taken away from his parents after judge rules he has been damaged by his jehovah's witness mother's religious beliefs http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092457/boy-7-taken-away-parents-judge-rules-damaged-jehovah-s-witness-mother-s-religious-beliefs.html.

davidmitchell

Boy, 7, taken away from his parents after judge rules he has been damaged by his Jehovah's Witness mother's religious beliefs

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092457/Boy-7-taken-away-parents-judge-rules-damaged-Jehovah-s-Witness-mother-s-religious-beliefs.html

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News article

by davidmitchell in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007905/south-wales-jehovah-s-witness-36-sex-15-year-old-schoolboy-avoids-jail-sentence.html.

davidmitchell

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007905/South-Wales-Jehovah-s-Witness-36-sex-15-year-old-schoolboy-avoids-jail-sentence.html

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Why does the Almighty need a mediator?

by economy in

god is alike to all of his children, hence cannot elevate one child above all others just because one was brought into existence before others.

(ezekiel 18:4) someone has to be first-born which does not give him any superiority over others!

interestingly, jesus simply dismissed the whole idea of one being placed over the others as pagan.

davidmitchell

When a communication is from God, it will be absolutely simple and will be impossible to be misunderstood by readers.

Eh? Where is any proof of this?

Would make us think: “If I am a person, my heavenly Father (my source) is also a person who must be like me in all respect"/

Again, how is this arrived at? The attributes of God, as narrated in the Bible, indicate he has (and can have) little in common with us.

It is necessary to remember that when Christianity went into the Gentile (Greek) world, it embraced the conceptual world of Hellenism and had to use its language and imagery.

John 1:1 is an example of using terminology that many groups at the time would recognise, e.g., Jews, Stoics, Gnostics, the students of Philo, etc., etc. They would be happy with all of John 1:1-13 and it would only be at 1:14 that they would have problems (In fact some writers believe that John 1:1-14 was a self-contained early Christian hymn or credal statement that the author of the Fourth Gospel tagged onto the beginning of his writing.

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The Witchtower: Bearing Children in a Dangerous World ;)

by processor in

bearing children in a dangerous world.

family, jehovah's witnesses add comments.

reprint from the witchtower, 09/2010.

davidmitchell

Though “not everyone who goes to university loses his Christian faith

When I was an university, I was fascinated to see how Christians, who came to study theology and thought they knew all about their faith but actually knew only what they had been told by their church/pastor and by the Christian literature they had read, were suddenly confronted with **facts** for the first time ever. The vast majority lost their faith or became ultra-liberals by the end of the course. I believe only one out of over a hundred retained his faith despite all the overwhelming evidence that the Bible is not consistent or inerrant.

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Nigerian scammers are getting hilariously sloppy - read this

by sir82 in

here is part of a scam e-mail delivered to my junk folder (i glance thru it every so often for kicks).

i highlighted the parts i found especially goofy:.

we found your name in our list and that is why we are contacting you, and we are happy to announce to you that every necessary legalarrangement regarding to your compensation has been signed and sealed.

davidmitchell

I received a scam email from a "Mrs Gadaffi" saying she wanted to transfer millions of dollars from her late husband's bank account, within just 10 minutes of his death being publicised! Can anyone beat that for speed?