gone are the days of getting into discussions about their beliefs.
doing major research to prove a position or watchtower doctrine is a thing of the past.
all they want from you is to surrender and accept everything they say as undeniable truth.. do you agree?.
It's been a loooong time since I've heard anyone get into a discussion about doctrine. I'd say the last time anything was discussed in depth was during the last time we went through the revelation book.
These days it's all talk about how life is so awful and the big A is only just around the corner. Any form of substance seems to have disappeared. Thinking about it that's probably why I floated along for so long before opening up to TTATT.
i used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
There have been loads of instances where witnesses in my locality have misbehaved. I know this isnt the case of an employed witness but one 'brother' decided to start up his own building business only he didn't really know anything about building. He ended up scamming a few customers out of thousands and got away with it.
i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
Here goes: SW Wales
i haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.
in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.
once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.
Marked
site is housechurchesuk.weebly.com/jehovahswitness-cult-or-christian.html.
make of it what you will.
My wife came across an interesting site for lurkers recently too. Useful for those who hold onto a belief in god. www.evidenceministries.org
This guy is clearly far more knowledgeable than the elder with whom he's discussing various subjects. Interestingly he feels he's been led by god to help both JWs and Mormons see how wrong and twisted their beliefs in the bible are.
i know this has been dished over before, but when i was doing some research i discovered a couple of interesting points.
as far as i can find, there is only one wt article that implies that jw men should not have beards.
*** w75 8/15 pp.
No Oubliette Twit was not the word I was thinking of but then I keep forgetting this is not just a UK site. Nevermind. And thanks for the English lesson.
Thanks for that Quendi. I have similar issues myself. I tend only to shave every two to three days as my skin becomes quite irritated on my neck if I shave daily.
i know this has been dished over before, but when i was doing some research i discovered a couple of interesting points.
as far as i can find, there is only one wt article that implies that jw men should not have beards.
*** w75 8/15 pp.
This particular elder is a complete and utter T#$t and that's putting it mildly
i recently ordered a copy of coc for my wife.
she doesn't know it exists, but i'm hoping she's ready to read it.
it seems to be the best red pill out there.
For me CoC certainly helped to solidify TTATT, but what got me going was the UN NGO articles.
i know this has been dished over before, but when i was doing some research i discovered a couple of interesting points.
as far as i can find, there is only one wt article that implies that jw men should not have beards.
*** w75 8/15 pp.
Sorry to bump an old thread but had this mentioned for the first time EVER in our hall last night with no scriptural explanation whatsoever.
The elder was doing the bible highlights and discussed the nazirites who grew their hair long to show subjection to jehovah. He read the scripture where it pointed this out and then without pointing to any other scripture said and I quote: "Notice it says nothing about not taking a blade to their faces!!! That's why we don't have beards!!!"
The faces in the hall were a picture of 'did he really just say that?!
I scoffed quite audiably as it was so ridiculous.
there are interesting claims in the watctower, august 2014:.
2 today, jehovah guides his people by means of the bible, his holy spirit, and the congregation.
(acts 9:31; 15:28; 2 tim.
Hey Doc I see what your saying but about them poo pooing this with regards to new light but just last night an elder made use of a 52 watchtower and specifically.asked if the reference on return visits was still valid? Clearly he answered yes because it doesn't contradict latest new light. So it seems as long as older publications are in agreement with new light, then they can still used for valid reasoning.
I believe the term cherry picking comes to mind :)
