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  Modern Morality .

  by jhine in

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  having recently been posting on a thread about ot moral values , which are not widely "appreciated " to say the least , i have been thinking about our modern morals about sex and reletionships , or more acurately the lack of any sexual morals todays .

  i don't think that we are better off as a society which has gone so far to the do want you want , with whom you want and when you want approach to sexual ethics as we have .

  i don't think that women are actually liberated by this attitude .

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  How old were you when baptized?

  by Coded Logic in

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  i was baptized at the age of 11. like most of us, my commitment wasnt to honor god but rather i was gang pressed into the service of the wtbts.

  and, at such a young age, it was impossible for me to appreciate the enormity of my actions.

  honestly, how could i possibly have known any better?

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  lurkernomore

  Like many i was Born in. I was 14 and thought i was doing the right thing. Turns out i didn't, who'd have thought!
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  QFR WT MARCH 15TH - PORN - D/F

  by stillajwexelder in

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  i assume you are all aware of this by now.

  qfr could a christians practice of viewing pornography.

  become so bad that it results in his being expelled.

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  lurkernomore

  You hit the nail on the head there DOC
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  Elders pretty much do whatever they want!

  by toto555 in

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  i've seen elders over the years openly flaunt "the rules", butt-kiss (the co especially), show favoritism and appoint brothers they like and not appoint brothers that should of been appointed for some trivial reason.

  many lord their "power" over the friends in blatant violation of scriptures and watchowers that specifically say that they shouldn't lord themselves over the flock.

  they pretty much do what they want!

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  Totally agree!!!

  This is what happened to my older brother. He was reaching out to become an MS in our hall. He was meeting all the requirements but on occasion didn't quite make the 10 hr field service quota. Needless to say others with Elders as fathers got made up rather easily, some who i knew didn't reach more than maybe 5 hrs in service.
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  pioneer book

  by itisme in

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  does anyone have the pioneer book?

  the new one: fully accomplish your ministry.

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  Off to Pioneer School ;) ?
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  "Tatian—JW Apologist or a Heretic Witness?"

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the year 2003 (w03 5/15 pp.

  27-29) the watchtower analyzed the heretical views of tatian, a christian of the second century, in an article entitled "tatianapologist or heretic?".

  let's read some portions:.

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  lurkernomore

  This just keeps getting better...!!! One of many great examples i've seen on here to show they use the same material to denounce on the one hand and then to build their case on the other. The same is true of their 607 BCE doctrine...... bloody hypocrites!!!
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  Cognitive Dissonance and my JW Mum!

  by lurkernomore in

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  2. friends

  so, my mum is a massively obedient little dub!

  i knew this before showing more negativity towards the borg.

  i recently fell into the trap of shooting my mouth off about all the things that i felt were wrong with the borg, after her ass kissing comments got the better of me.. my other half's grandmother has also learned ttatt over the past few months as has most of her immediate familly in fact.

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  The funny thing about all this is it only took an invite from my gran in Germany for her to join us for my grans 80th birthday party lol
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  JW GB MEMBER CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

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  gb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!

  i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.

  i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!

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  Sorry but can't see anything i would describe as 'sexual gyrating' just really bad 'dancing'.
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  Cognitive Dissonance and my JW Mum!

  by lurkernomore in

  1. jw
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  so, my mum is a massively obedient little dub!

  i knew this before showing more negativity towards the borg.

  i recently fell into the trap of shooting my mouth off about all the things that i felt were wrong with the borg, after her ass kissing comments got the better of me.. my other half's grandmother has also learned ttatt over the past few months as has most of her immediate familly in fact.

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  Hi BM, my wife brought that arguement. She said why when EVERYONE is saying we are soooooooo close to the end do they need to build another bethel when they have a perfectly functioning one in London?

  Apparently it's because the UK is now supplying literature for all these different places and need more printing space. I didn't bother bashing my head against a brick wall by mentioning the sell off of numerous bethels around the globe which could easily be used to finance this build!

  She also happened to mention all the unrest in the world as proof of just how close we are. I said i'm sure it was the same during the cold war. What about the atrocities commited in the likes of Bosnia and surrounding countries. That was just as bad as what IS are getting up to now!

  @coded logic - i totally understand what your saying it's just frustrating because she's always been a know it all in everything, which has always ground my gears ;)
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  Cognitive Dissonance and my JW Mum!

  by lurkernomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, my mum is a massively obedient little dub!

  i knew this before showing more negativity towards the borg.

  i recently fell into the trap of shooting my mouth off about all the things that i felt were wrong with the borg, after her ass kissing comments got the better of me.. my other half's grandmother has also learned ttatt over the past few months as has most of her immediate familly in fact.

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  So, my Mum is a MASSIVELY obedient little dub! I knew this before showing more negativity towards the Borg. I recently fell into the trap of shooting my mouth off about all the things that i felt were wrong with the Borg, after her ass kissing comments got the better of me.

  My other half's Grandmother has also learned TTATT over the past few months as has most of her immediate familly in fact. She calls every so often and always tries to keep us in the loop of new 'developments' she has heard about. I'm sure one of her sons is on here somewhere ;)

  She phoned us last week to inform us of the fact that there will be an announcement in the 1st week of September to ask for 'MORE' money from the R&F, this time to build the new Bethel faciities in the UK. I hadn't heard about this yet so was waiting to hear my darling mother blab on about it when she next pops over to see her grandaughter.

  Low and behold just as expected she mentions the new pledges that were asked for at the Thursday meeting. At this point she has already spouted off for minutes about some other boring and pointless information about the Borg. As you can imagine by this point i had already heard enough and made my feelings known about this so called arrangement.

  Now here's where the Cognitive Dissonance really came into play. She states that she admits she didn't really like the idea of it when she first heard it. I jumped at this and reminded her of how the Borg always said: ' We will NEVER ask for money like evil Christendom'

  You should have seem her face. Something ticked over and you could see her thought process kicking in, only to then make her come out with the the following statement 'But i do suppose that when Solomons temple was being built they all brought their valuable things'

  This is the same BS they go on about for normal contributions for goodness sakes!!!

  I left her with the sentiments of Luke 14:28-30, which plainly sets out the principle to 'calculate the cost to see if he has enough to complete it'.

  I said clearly they did not calculate the cost but instead hoped the R&F would once again cough up the money for yet another building project. Surely the sale of prime property on London would easily cover the cost of the new build what with the free labour and all.

  It's so frutrating because she clearly has issues with certain aspects of the 'truth' but always finds some circular reasoning to answer away her negativity. I know others have come across this in their dealings with die hard dubs, but just wanted to vent i guess.

  I'll have to learn to hold my tongue better as we've now gone cold turkey from meetings for the best part of 3 weeks now. Wish us luck