Posts by lurkernomore

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Jehovah's Witnesses ... Proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879

by jwleaks in

the first edition of the watchtower magazine, july 1879, made the following comment on page 5 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

exactly 136 years later the latest edition of the watchtower magazine, july 2015, (paragraph 3) made the following comment on page 15 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

jehovah's witnesses ... proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879.. .

What bad habits have you picked up since leaving the Borg.

by James Mixon in

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friends

i went back to smoking and gambling but the good habits out weigh.

the bad ones, like lying to people.

is't fraud against the law, the practice.

The only 'bad' thing, if you want to call it that, is taking up playing the lottery, other than that most things have changed for the better. I drink less (not that I drank too much) and I've been going back to the gym lifting weights for the first time in 2 years. This has always been a passion of mine and since the kids arrived and all the jw stuff I rarely had time. I feel much healthier for it!

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What Things Did You Not Talk About as a JW?

by minimus in

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you have to lead a secret life as a jw.

you're not supposed to over drink, go to night clubs, enjoy worldly concerts, etc.....sex, though is really taboo.

you could never freely talk about your sex life.

lurkernomore

My wife and I had a select group of friends where pretty much anything went. We'd go our get drunk, swear till the air turned blue, ate too much and basically just had a completely carefree, fun time. Other than whether we could be bothered to go to the meeting the following day we never discussed jw stuff at all.

Funny enough the least wittoy jw is now an ms who still goes to casinos and smokes the occasional cigar and the rest of us are out thank fudge!

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Told the mother we celebrate birthdays today!

by lurkernomore in

so today i go and see my mother after a day at work and she tells me my oma phoned her from germany a couple days ago.

it was shortly after that i just dropped in that i sent her some flowers earlier that day for same day delivery.

it's her 81st birthday!.

lurkernomore

For now I guess.

We also live in a fairly small community and have been amazed at how little we've been bothered by elders and others from the hall.

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Told the mother we celebrate birthdays today!

by lurkernomore in

so today i go and see my mother after a day at work and she tells me my oma phoned her from germany a couple days ago.

it was shortly after that i just dropped in that i sent her some flowers earlier that day for same day delivery.

it's her 81st birthday!.

lurkernomore

So today I go and see my mother after a day at work and she tells me my Oma phoned her from Germany a couple days ago. It was shortly after that I just dropped in that I sent her some flowers earlier that day for same day delivery. It's her 81st birthday!

Funny enough my mother remembers it's her birthday as a year earlier she accompanied us to her 80th although a fully 'in' JW. She can't however be bothered to acknowledge my birthday a mere two weeks previous, funny that.

She goes on to say: 'Do you celebrate birthdays now then?' To which I simply answer that I don't see anything wrong with it :o lol. The subject is quickly changed...by her.

I've been waiting for this quite some time as we've now been faded for the best part of 8 months and made it abundantly clear we no longer believe it's the truth. Sad thing is she's probably too scared to aproach the elders about my paganism as she's too keen to be involved in her grandchildren's lives.

It's very interesting to see how my family have reacted in comparison to so many others on here. It seems that my mother in particular has made a point of not rocking the boat, yet still seems surprised that after such a long time were not still following wt doctrine. I mean why the hell would we restrict ourselves in the things we do now that we have finally found our freedom? It makes no sense.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

lurkernomore

When I first discovered TTATT I made it my mission to be as objective as possible. I like to think I can see through bs most of the time, which was very important in making my decision to leave all things JW.

With this in mind I would pray most days, (usually when out with the dog as this was the most quiet part of the day for me) asking Jehovah (if he really did exist) to help me find answers to the things I found out. Funny enough he's remained silent on all my requests for help...

I wish you both all the best for the future. It'll take some time to adjust but life's a lot less stressful, at least for us anyway ;)

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Why do we get TTATT and others don't?

by quest81 in

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i have thought about how ttatt came full circle for me.

how the connecting the dots was simple and just made sense,.

how silos of information are literally at our fingertips today.. why is it that the ones we love cannot get ttatt?.

lurkernomore

I don't know if my experience is similar to anyone else's?! Looking back on things, I gradually stopped a lot of jw activity before learning TTATT. For the best part of 2 1/2 years before I first encountered the UN scandal I hadn't answered at meetings and only made a token appearance in service. Having our first child was great as i could now 'legitimately' count time without knocking on doors :)

I always felt I wasn't doing enough but at the same time couldn't bring myself to make more of an effort.

I believe I'd made a subconscious decision that things weren't right for some reason. Perhaps the monotony of it all just got too much, I've always got bored quickly when I was younger and remember the meetings droning on about the same old bs week after week. I don't think there was a week that went by when porn or masterbation wasn't discussed!!!

I totally agree with everyone though, the triggers seem different from one person to another. I guess it boils down to what TTATT someone is exposed to and what stage they're at in life.

The UN NGO scandal got the ball rolling for me... these days the protection of peadophiles is my no.1 pet hate of the org.

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POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?

by minimus in

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friends

i was just invited.

i thanked my old elder friend and he left.

(i'm not going).

lurkernomore

Nope!

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Has anybody been guilted/emotionally blackmailed into attending the 2015 Memorial?

by Bucholz in

hello everybody, i was wondering if anyone has been guilted or emotionally blackmailed into attending the memorial this year.

something along the lines of "if you loved your family you would at least attend the memorial".

i myself haven't attended in 5 years.

lurkernomore

So far nothing. The elders have been unusually quiet for us since our abrupt exit. My mother knows I don't think it's the truth and she hasn't tried to preach at me since!

Here's hoping it continues lol

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a situation I know of and the mind set of the elders.

by joe134cd in

ok here's the situation i know of.. a women was in a situation where she was forced to reveal a hidden sin and was given a private reproof for it.

before this she had an other wise clean slate.

btw the reproof was for an unrelated matter and had nothing to do with apostasy.

lurkernomore

Hi Joe,

We've found exactly the same thing. I still do work for some wittos from time to time and till now (we've been physically out since August last year) only one of the elderly women has asked when I'm coming back to meetings.

It used to perplex us. Now we see it as more of a blessing in disguise. People still wave to me in the street and say hello but no one can be arsed to pop round or have even tried to get us to come back.

The really ironic thing, as was already mentioned somewhat, is that I see them out in service all the time trying to recruit new drones but they don't care about the ones who leave. So much for genuine friends and Christian love.