Posts by LP97

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Watchtower transformation to JW.org - step by step TTATT recap

by 4thgen in

the watchtower has been making cunning and calculated changes in the organization to gain more money, power and control.

jwn has a multitude of posts on the rapid metamorphosis of the watchtower into jw.org.

please feel free to comment and interject your thoughts.

LP97

MARKETING: JW.org leads to publication cost savings and content control. The promotion of JW.org leads to more internet ‘hits’ and bring their website to a top position for an internet search. Years ago, many were encouraged to dispose of their older literature in favor of the Watchtower library on CD rom. With this new publications list on line, failed predictions and outlandish statements that were made in older publications can now be changed with the click of a button.

TECHNOLOGY & LARGER GATHERINGS: In 2013, they had the first remote annual meeting. Since this event was a success, they could begin the downsizing of the District and Circuit Assemblies for more cost savings. Congregations are now encouraged to purchase big flat screen TV’s for virtual meetings. This leads to less overhead and more control of content. This is eerily reminiscent of the movie 1984, with its cult like gatherings in front of large screens, Big Brother and changing the written publications.

This is what's scariest for me. They're going to dump paper publications and go straight to online, where information can be controlled and any contradictions or hypocrisies in their publications can be swiftly changed.

GB talks at the recent IC is just the beginning...we will be having virtual talks in the not too distant future I think.

It's perfect for the Borg - they control the masses and make sure their failures are unviewable as well as cutting costs so they get even more money in their pockets.

I'm glad I'm getting out of this cult sooner rather than later. The sad thing is, most JWs do not see the bigger picture and will continue to be loyal sheep to the GB. Makes you sad really.

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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...

by OUTLAW in

.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...

LP97

Actually, thinking about it, wasn't this (A.K.A GB moneygrabbing) supposted to help branches/regions where there was a lack of funds for projects, construction, repairs etc and make it easier to send money there?

So why are they now asking for more money to build the proposed new London Bethel? Couldn't they get money from the HQ?

Of course, I wouldn't expect this thought to be on any of the sheeple's minds - once they learn about the proposed new Bethel they'll be desperate to throw their cash at WTBT$ again.

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Stephen Lett (Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses) Publicly Counsels Politicians During Convention Keynote Address In Africa

by jwleaks in

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zambia: fulfill promises ... jehovah's witnesses counsel politicianstimes of zambia.

august 23, 2014. by chatula kampo.

a top jehovah's witnesses' world leader has bemoaned politicians' failure to fulfill campaign promises.. stephen lett, who gave a keynote speech at the on-going convention held at levy mwanawasa stadium in ndola, said politicians needed to meet the aspirations of people who vote them into public offices.. meanwhile, conversion overseer john mashilipa has urged fellow witnesses to respect the government of the day, obedient and continue remaining non-partisan.. in the keynote address streamed live from solwezi district in the north-western province, mr lett, one of the seven members of the world governing body said electorates expected much from the people they vote for.. "there is need for politicians to fulfill their promises to their voters once they assumed power," he said.. he observed that most politicians failed to fulfill promises to their voters who had high expectations.. "politicians usually promise a moon and not deliver to their promises, this is disappointing to the voters who have high expectations," he said.. mr mashilipa said believers needed to seek god's kingdom which he said never fails, unlike human governance.. this year's conversion attracted a historic attendance of more than 40,000 people from across the five districts in the province namely; ndola, kitwe, luanshya, mufulira, kalushi and chambishi.. gathered under the theme 'keep seeking first god's kingdom', witnesses filled the stadium and those who could not find seats monitored proceedings from outside.

LP97

Politicians not fulfilling their promises? Hmm, almost like those promises your organisation failed to fulfil in 1914, 1925 and 1975.

Him and his fellow GB members are not too dissimilar to politicians - keeping the attention of their supporters by dangling the carrot in front of them which they promise but will never get.

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evolution

by venting in

just wanted to encourage people still in the org.

to study the theory of evolution in a non jehovahs witness setting.

i used to think the evolution book was great.

LP97

The Borg have basically been using Paley's telelogical argument since they started talking about evolution...other than that, they have little to no arguments to back up their creationist beliefs. It's amazing they've published quite a few books on this using basically the same argument. They're doing it again using the "Was It Designed" sections.

I've also noticed how recently they said they were not "creationists"...even though they are. They're not young Earth creationists, but they're still creationists...

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HULK HOGAN will he convert to Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Watchtower-Free in

.from jw instagram .

http://instagram.com/jw_witnesses.

caption:" a few sisters were out in the tract campaign in clearwater, florida this morning and placed a tract with wrestling personality hulk hogan.

LP97

Can't wait for the new section on JW.org, "JWWF", where Hogan discusses his "wrestling" against Satan's temptations.

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for those still "in" what's the mood

by lastchance in

in my area the general sense is bleak.

many are in survival mode.

even at the convention the appearance of the majority was unhappy and tired.

LP97

I couldn't tell you about everyone, but JW teens couldn't care less these days. Other than the ones who are really pushed by their parents to pioneer, most put on a brave face for the meeting before they chat to their friends afterwards. Then they go home and act like ordinary teenagers. You just have to look at their Facebook profiles. Selfies with skin showing, and "funny" videos and pictures. If it wasn't for convention pictures you wouldn't be able to tell they're Dubs.

Then when push comes to shove and their parents want them to get more involved spiritually, they're away, never to be seen again.

The Borg are losing the youth and they know it. It's why they're suddenly acceptive of social media, have the big and flashy JW.org and are generally trying to be more modern. But they are fighting a losing battle. I think this is the beginning of the end - the youth will start dropping like flies and the rest will eventually follow. It will be a slow death and a horrible one. They are smart enough to see through the facade.

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Not on JW.ORG: Jehovah's Witnesses being sued again in California for Child Molestation by Pioneer/Servant. Abuse hidden from police by Elders and Watchtower Society.

by Balaamsass2 in

orange county lawsuit alleges sex abuse by jehovah's witness leadertwo men said they were abused in laguna hills as teenagers.. .

by eric hartley / staff writer.

published: aug. 27, 2014 updated: 7:44 p.m.. two men who say they were molested as teenagers by a jehovahs witness church leader in south orange county filed a lawsuit against him and the church this week.

LP97

smiddy, I've thought the same. The amount of paedophilia scandals in the Borg is massive compared to other religions of the same size. I think someone should create a "paedophilia scandals per head" table, it would be no surprise if JW was at the top ahead of the Catholic Church, etc.

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Sept 1 service meeting mystery revealed

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

the letter has appeared at last - just for uk.

it is a money grab for the new bethel which has been approved.

there is a video to be shown - just watched it - brief summary of uk bethels, why current one is too small, why we need money to build a new one.

LP97

For example, who of you wanting to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it?

- Luke 14:28

Hypocrisy at its finest.

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What my mother should have done.

by LovelyEunie in

this is somewhat of a rant but every time i think of it it just pisses me off.. .

i never understood why my mom would never switch to another hall or whatever when she knew how i was treated by the people who were supposedly the 'best' association around.

my older sister also, because neither of us really had any jw friends because for whatever reason i guess we were pegged as the baddies because our dad wasn't witness (still isn't) and my mother stayed sick a lot so she wasn't able to do half of whatever was required.. .

LP97

Your story resonates with me a lot. I am in my last year of school and although I have school friends, they find it strange that I do not really associate with them outside of school.

Instead, my mother wants me to have "good association" like some fellow male JW teenagers from another congregation who I play football (soccer) with weekly and they use profanity amongst themselves and can be quite aggressive - it's OK though, their parents drag them along to meetings, so therefore they are automatically "good association" even though their moral standards are probably lower than some of my "worldly" school friends. The old line is constantly cranked out "they don't live under Bible standards", even though most of the so-called "good association" don't.

The whole thing is just inane logic from the WTBTS because they want everything to be JW, JW, JW. Keep the JW kids in their own circle, it doesn't matter if they don't like each other or don't want to be friends, we can't risk them getting some "worldly" friends and being influenced by them. Another cult-like feature from the organisation.

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A new member

by LP97 in

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i'm a 17 year old from scotland.

can i just say this site is absolutely brilliant.

finally found people with open minds and free thought that doesn't just consist of "well the wt told me this so it must be right".. my story is that i'm just like any other child of a jw...brought up into a life of indoctrination where "the world's" thinking is automatically wrong.. that is until i was 14 - a light turned on in my head.

LP97

Thanks for the replies everyone.

OneEyedJoe, I am not baptized, not even a unbaptized publisher in fact, which is a very good thing for when I do leave!

problemaddict, I'm trying to appreciate my parents for what they are - they are very reasonable JWs compared to other parents I have seen. The amount of "unwholesome" entertainment I've been allowed to watch/play would probably shock a lot of JW kids! I also have no issue with window washers/janitors - just using as it as an example as it's often a job of pioneers who left school without pursuing any further education. I don't want to go into my old age regretting the fact I never used my talents to the full and instead pursued a career I didn't want so I could preach lies and mislead people.

LisaRose, I think they are trying to save face too - our discussions never ended properly, so while I may be hiding what I truly feel for now I think they know in the back of their mind that when the time comes, I won't decide to be a part of their cult.