If Armagedon is the worst thing that will ever happen on earth....there won't be any of mansions/houses standing. That's what I used to thein when sisters said they wanted this or that house.
Take Care,
AB
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WT recent public news release showing emergency support for MEMBERS only.....
by EndofMysteries inunder news alerts on the borg website, i noticed 2 stories, 1 about the bus crash in honduras, and it's interesting that it seems that non jw agencies have helped out when you see this statement...."we appreciate the outpouring of support from the community and the various agencies that have come to the aid of those affected by this tragedy.
so on this instance, it seems the wt welcomes aid from outside sources.
now the 2nd story, is about the hurricane in mexico, and we have this statement...."in the aftermath of hurricane odile, which hit the coast of baja california sur on monday, september 15, 2014, jehovahs witnesses from the surrounding area provided food, water, and medicine to their members affected by the storm.
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US Zone visit: disappointing, depressing, discouraging
by sir82 ini will have plenty of "snark" to post later on, but please indulge me while i get this out of my system..... suppose you are the leaders...yes, the leaders...there are only 7 of you...for the one true religion in all the universe.. jehovah the god of the whole universe speaks to you, you alone, out of 7 billion+ people on teh planet.. you have an opportunity, thanks to the advancements in technology, to speak to 750,000 of your followers "live", and another 750,000 or so within 24 hours.. 1.5 million people!
hanging on your every word!.
this is the first time in history you can simultaneously, or nearly simultaneously, address so many of your adherents.. what message are you going to present for this special occasion?.
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It was to humiliate those in front of 100s of thousands of people, can't do that when it's a one on one or inhouse.
Take Care,
AB
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I was hoping to hear something inspiring, fantastic, and 'end-of-system' worthy, I really was. In fact I looked forward to the meeting all week.
1. Berating the Bethelites for being late was 45 minutes of wasted time. In fact, I thought it was cruel. If I was a bethelite, I would have packed my things, and gone home.
2. A father whose 7 children were in the truth is supposed to feel bad?? WTH??
3. Why so hung up on tight pants? This is not the first time I've heard that talk.
4. Here is another point which bothers me the most....This is not the tribulation and most of the JWs are able to preach freely. But the few that are imprisoned could probably be helped somehow. Maybe I'm dreaming, but what if the GB waved a few million in the faces of those doing the jailing...would that help those poor people to be released?? Isn't there anything that can be done to help them? This isn't the tribulation or Armegeddon, so why do those people have to suffer? I don't think that's somehting to brag about..as if the organization was under some kind of tribulation. I think the tribulation they will face in the near future, if not already is from policies they have made that will backfire, big time.
5. What happens to all of the money? Why don't the rest of us get to know where the donations are going?? And asking for money to build new KHs? I thought they were selling them left and right?
But, all in all.... for ONCE it wasn't about how evil the df'd and da'd ones are. Never mentioned them once, at least not that I heard. So, for once, after one of these 'special' events, I didnt' have to feel like dirt under the elites' shoes.
Just my thoughts.
Anyway, Take Care,
AB
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How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse
by suavojr inthe borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.
consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.
this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .
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Got ratted out for celebrating Halloween...
by cognac inone of two things will happen.
i'll get disfellowshipped and never have to worry about being "told on" again for living a normal life, or; they won't do anything.. either way, it's freeing and i feel relieved... it will be sad if i get disfellowshipped but i've come to terms and made peace with it as much as can be expected.
it's a huge weight to have off.. was told on a week ago and haven't heard anything.
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Cognac ~ I've been df'd, and my advice to you is, don't go that route, if you can help it. Just leave, if that's what you want to do. But if your JC is anything like mine, you'll be demonized by the JWs for the rest of your life. ANd it hurts, if that's all you've ever known.
Anyway, Take Care,
AB
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Londo 111 ~ Thank you
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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There is nothing the org can do or say that will test my faith in Jehovah or Jesus...but the org has already done plenty to test my faith in them. Bring in on! AB
In response to another comment on this thread.
I realise that some of you are convinced that the amount of children abused in the KHs around the world is 'miniscule'. I, on the other hand, believe that the amount of children abused at the KHs is monstrous (not to mention all of the others bullied and abused by active JWs).
1. My sons were drugged and molested by an elder, and so was their best JW buddy, and the elder had been molesting and raping young brothers for 20 years previous to that.
2. In next congo in which I was a member, there was a JW pedophile (my husband and I were told this by an elder's wife). She also mentioned to us another pedo in the neighboring congo.
I consider that to be a great deal of abuse. And that's just the 3 congs I attended....what else is happening out there? All of this has not weakened my faith in God, but it sure has weakened my faith in humans.
Some day I believe that Jehovah will grab the org by the neck and shake it until all the abusers, riff-raff, bullies and evil is thrown out for the world to see. I think the tribulation will start from within.
Take Care,
AB
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How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse
by suavojr inthe borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.
consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.
this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .
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I have had elders try to run me into the ground for years.
Because I was married to a non-JW and was a sister doing excellently, so were my children. ANd we really loved and believed in what we were doing. So a few of the elders thought they'd give me a hard time, and they did. They called the house, confronted me when I entered the KH, and generally harrassed me. NOT because I was doing badly, but because me and the kids were doing better than they were.
Eventually I was df'd ( I was never told why, but I'm sure it had something to do with me warning parents about the elder that molested my sons). And sheepishly, I felt I wasn't good enough, or I cried, and felt badly.
Finally, finally...with the help of God, I learned to put them in their place and they no longer have any any 'power' over me.
I tried to return for years, and met many Nazi elders. You will be surprised how cowardly the 'nazis' are when you look them in the eye and tell them to close the bible because they are not fit to read from it. The last 2 elders that paid me a visit, about a month ago, said "when you decide to return to Jehovah"....I stopped him before another word escaped from his mouth. I said, "I never left, you guys kicked me out, but I have never left Jehovah...and don't you dare read from the bible, you aren't fit to say His name". I am a very quiet and gentle person, but they have pushed me over the edge. I have been bullied by these guys for years (in many different congos), and now I bully back. I could tell you a million stories, and I am sorry this is so long.
IF this guy is an a$$, look him in the eye and say, "what's your problem, quit acting like an a$$hole!" I guarantee he will run crying. They aren't God, they are just nobodies like the rest of us.
Take Care,
AB
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Favorite Episode of Star Trek
by Coded Logic incalling all tos, tng, ds9, voyager, or enterprise fans, what's your favorite serries and why?
and what's your favorite episode and why?.
(too many choices on netflix for me to decide which to watch right now).
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AlwaysBusy
I started watching the original 'Star Trek' when it started back in the 70's.
But my all-time favorite is the Star Trek movie, "Wrath of Kahn". Riccardo Montalban was great as Kahn.
Take Care,
AB
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Child sex abuse cases mentioned at weekly meeting?
by HeyThere inokay, tonight someone told me that one of the elders actually addressed the child sex abuse cases at the weeknight meeting this past week.
she said the speaker said that accusations are being made against the truth but that they should stand firm in the truth and that they are going to continue fighting these allegations and that all should stand firm for jehovah or some similar comments.... did anyone else hear this from the stage?.
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Wow..... didn't hear that at our meeting! They will blame the victim, if they do mention it.
Anyway, Take Care,
AB