There is an expression which comes to mind: There is what you think the truth is, there is what I think the truth is, and then there is . . . . that’s right, you guessed it . . . . there is what the truth actually is. And I think that what the truth actually is is not what any religion (or cult) thinks it is. Folks just make it up as they go along on their own unique brands of their little fanciful make-believe power trips.
Posts by SAHS
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The truth will set you free . . .
by zed is dead in.
but first it will piss you off.
- gloria steinem.
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New light?
by Ignoranceisbliss inmy father who is an elder with decent organizational connections mentioned that very soon there would be "new light" regarding the resurrected being able to be married.
this would make sense because our current understanding has never made any sense to me.
has any one else heard anything about that?.
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SAHS
This idea of people not being allowed to marry after they are resurrected is certainly NOT what I have understood all this time. (And I’m a born-in!)
Luke 20:35-36 states: “But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.” (NIV) This scripture must be referring to the anointed, because apparently only they are automatically considered to be “God’s children” upon their final sealing and resurrection – which is the first resurrection. This is in line with what Revelation 20:4-6 states: “I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.” (NIV)
However, the other sheep (including the great crowd and the ones to be resurrected on earth during Christ’s Millennial Reign) apparently will not actually become “God’s children,” or “come to life” (i.e., attaining perfection), until after passing the final test when Satan is let loose for a little while at the end of the millennium.
So, therefore, both those above scriptures in Luke and Revelation would logically point to the anointed.
Also, consider this: the drawings depicting life in the “new system of things” show families – including couples and children. Furthermore, my mom, who has been a die-hard JW since the 50’s, to this day keeps telling me that it’s better for me not to get married until after Armageddon. From my experience in the JWs, I am guessing that by far most JWs are unaware of any prohibition against marriage in the “new system.”
As for a JW whose spouse dies before Armageddon, sure that particular marriage bond would officially be broken in death, but who the heck is to say that they could not eventually get married to their lost spouse again in the new system? Whether one or even both marriage mates die before Armageddon, why couldn’t they get another crack at their marriage? I mean, I would think that they would have to be considered suitable if they were already married before, wouldn’t they?
This whole idea of being forbidden to marry after the resurrection, and certainly the idea of being resurrected without genitals like some kind of Barbie dolls, must be the most ridiculous and asinine things I’ve heard of yet!
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How To Prove That The "Truth" Is Founded On Negativity And Hate
by metatron inwanna prove to yourself that jws can't let go of negativity and hate?
that it is at the core of their faith?
ask the following question:.
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SAHS
The WTS certainly doesn’t mind billions of non-JW people, or even weak JW people, being killed at Armageddon – just as long as they are not included. Not only do they not mind the idea of such a great slaughter of “other” people (i.e., not them), they, in fact, rather relish that idea, as it helps reinforce the thought that they are so much better than everybody else in the world. Nothing like having everybody else (not them) in the whole world killed as a means to elevate them up on the highest pedestal.
And that is really the core foundation of their religion (i.e., We’re right, you’re wrong – prepare to die!). The WTS purports to be based on love, but it is obvious that such a religion which effectively seeks the ultimate trampling on everybody else in the world is in reality just another brand of rotten hate.
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This weeks study article.....seriously flawed and insensitive reasoning
by stuckinarut2 inok, so this weeks study article says the following:.
14. how has jehovah been the rescuer of his people?.
14 the psalmist david sang: i am helpless and poor; may jehovah pay attention to me.
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SAHS
The WTS certainly doesn’t protect children from fears, depression, and suicide relating to demons, stumbling someone, sinning against the holy spirit, being “disfellowshipped,” dying at Armageddon, . . . . oh, wait – THEY’RE the ones causing and promoting all that!
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Frozen and Sparlock the warrior wizard
by NewYork44M ingiven that magic is from satan, this is what we learned from the horrible story about the little boy and sparlock the warrior wizard.
i am curious to know if witness kids are allowed to see the movie frozen.
i am not a big disney fan, but this movie was wonderful.
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SAHS
When you really think of it, technically Disney’s Mickey Mouse would also be demonic by definition. Mickey is a cartoon of a TALKING mouse. (Real mice can’t actually talk according to the normal rules of nature, remember?) And what did the snake supposedly do in the Garden of Eden? It TALKED to Eve. And who was behind the snake, controlling it? Ssssatan! . . . . So, by the WTS’ (super-idiotic) reasoning, then technically poor little Mickey would also be villafied on the old “demonic” list.
The WTS’ meticulous obsession with “Pagan origins” this, “worldly” that, and “demonic” the other thing really reminds me of when Jesus mentioned about the Pharisees ‘straining out the gnat but gulping down the camel.’ (Matthew 23:24) And of course Jesus himself was supposed to have basically gone on a magic spree that would put Chris Angel to shame.
Actually, I saw every single episode of the X-Files, and I’m proud of it! (But not my folks.)
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The Golden Rule, proof that a higher intelligence did NOT write the Bible
by jws inthe golden rule, matthew 7:12:.
so in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the law and the prophets.. .
a whle back i had a management course.
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SAHS
Given the small percentage of human population on the fringes as to how they specifically would like to be treated (bullies with low self-esteem, sadomasochistic folks, people who just love a good fight), I would say that Matthew 7:12 would be a socially acceptable and morally valid principle in the vast majority cases compared with the average. As to being able to tell exactly which personality type you are dealing with at any given moment, I suppose that it would be kind of similar to quantum mechanics in that you cannot ascertain exactly where an electron is located at any specific time due to the “Heisenberg uncertainty principle” BUT, however, you can determine the orbital area (the “electron cloud”) wherein an electron is likely be present about 90 percent of the time.
So in other words, deciding to start from the precept that “most people respond to kindness” and going from there would, in fact, be your best bet, or at least probably a good 90 percent of the time.
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Today marks 6000 pages of topics on Friends directory since beginning end is close!
by SAHS inwe know now that the end of this system of things wasnt supposed to come after 6000 years of mankinds existence, which was the year 1975 a.d. freddie franz obviously got it wrong maybe the end was really supposed to come after 6000 pages of topics on the jwn friends directory.
you will notice that today we have indeed reached 6000 pages of new topics on this friends directory.
maybe thats what its supposed to be.
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SAHS
We know now that the end of this system of things wasn’t supposed to come after 6000 years of mankind’s existence, which was the year 1975 A.D. Freddie Franz obviously got it wrong – maybe the end was really supposed to come after 6000 pages of topics on the JWN “Friends” directory. You will notice that today we have indeed reached 6000 pages of new topics on this “Friends” directory. Maybe that’s what it’s supposed to be. Oh boy, I’m getting a little scared right now. Someone hold me. *
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* Footnote: Yes, that’s sarcasm. I’m not really a qualified numerologist/pyramidologist. I just couldn’t resist that 6000 thing.
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Where did the Witchtower Babble on about "HAPPIFIED" first?
by hamsterbait ini have the idea, or vague memory of happified being used in a discussion of the "days" in daniel 12 : "jehovah's people were further happified ".
does anybody have the litterature still to check this?
mine went in the trash, except for the aid book, which ray franz produced, so i kept it as he had integrity, along with the james commentary.. can you remember any other ridiculous words they used?
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SAHS
To “hamsterbait”: Here’s a very interesting definition that comes up on my computer for both “happified” as well as “happify” – here it is:
“No results found”
Now that’s quite telling as to how the WTS has a record of being out of step with society in word, in action, and, of course, in print.
To “RubaDub”: LOL! Good one. That little laugh I just had was most “happifying.” (Same definition results.)
You wouldn’t want to actually use words like that in any document of any kind of serious, . . . . otherwise that would make your document become rather befriggified! (I made that one up. I guess my brain is getting discombobulated in my old age.)
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1 John 1.9
by quellycatface inshame the jw's don't take much notice of this scripture.. the key of christian faith.. hope everyone had a peaceful weekend.
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love qcf x.
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SAHS
The WTS does believe that “if we confess our sins, he who is faithful and just will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (NRSV) – but the only difference is that the WTS wants us to confess our sins to them, and of course Jesus is always just an afterthought.
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Is it kind of funny that JWs don't give Jesus resurrection day any notice?
by Comatose inif you think about it, for a die hard christian the day jesus was supposed to be resurrected and back in heaven, thereby fulfilling his earthly mission, is a very big day.
all the jws i know never even thought about it.
in fact if i had mentioned it, i bet they would have looked me at strangely.
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“will-be-apostate”: “Maybe because the bible doesn't tell christians to commemorate his ressurection?”
Maybe so, but I would think that it would go without saying that since Jesus’ death is so pivotal in the outworking of Almighty God’s purpose for humanity, Jesus’ resurrection should naturally also be recognized annually, as the whole plan would fall apart without his death AND resurrection. These two events are very much intertwined and integral to the Christian faith. . . . or at least they should be.