More local autonomy = less central liability/culpability.
When it comes to a crunch, the little guys always lose.
Posts by SAHS
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37New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions
by XBEHERE infrom the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.
nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.
even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.
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Stagnant JW growth at international convention
by kneehighmiah inso at the international convention 235 were baptized.
the attendance was 34k.
that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.
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“Magnum”: “Just think about it. A 15-year-old is not old enough to clean bathrooms on his own, yet he's old enough to have the knowledge, experience, understanding, reasoning ability, discernment, etc. necessary to make the important decision to get baptized and sign his life away to an organization.”
That certainly puts things into perspective. And just think how important age is in consent, especially sexual consent. Think of how much trouble a person could get into for having any kind of sexual activity with a minor who is even just a year or two under the legal age of consent. People take that so seriously, along with the legal age for driving, voting, smoking, getting tattooed, or have someone’s ears pierced. No, no, no. . . . But, making a decision which could ultimately end up severing the child’s ties to their own freekin’ family, well, they’re still just dunking those wee ones just as fast as they can – I suppose to show the world how JWs are such a progressive and thriving organization!
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WTS one step closer to "1984" - JW literature rewritten in online versions
by sir82 inlikely everyone here is familar with the novel "1984" - "he who controls the past, controls the future.
he who controls the present, controls the past".. take a look at wol.jw.org, insight book, topic "faithful and discreet slave".. current online wording: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001485.
jesus trained the apostles for the role they would have after pentecost 33 c.e.
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SAHS
The WTS has probably programmed and implemented a new software system to deal with this. First they developed “MEPS” (Multi-language Electronic Phototypesetting System) for graphics compositing. Now they are probably using another electronic system, something like “ABSAUS” – Automatic Bullshit Sanitization and Update System (also known as the “wipe-away” system), which senses the particular bullshit of today, compares it with the old bullshit of yesterday, and “sanitizes” (modifies/updates) it so that the shit doesn’t hit the fan tomorrow.
Aren’t we so lucky fortunate that the Mother Organization is so backwards-forward-thinking!
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New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions
by XBEHERE infrom the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.
nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.
even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.
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“zed is dead”: “It is all about liability in legal cases.”
True. It seems that there is now a lot of awareness on the part of the WTS that it certainly needs to listen to its legal teem and cover their old butts, especially with all the new laws to make organizations more accountable and to protect the safety and integrity of the general public.
Now if it hits the fan with any lawsuits over policy as applied on an individual basis, the WTS will think that probably they can just say, “Oh, that really wasn’t our idea. I guess that Brother Circuit Overseer was kind of out on a limb there. You should go after him. Oh, and we should probably delete that Brother Circuit Overseer for misrepresenting us, just to be on the safe side.”
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“minimus”: “I don't like the stigma.”
Actually, considering all the contrived nonesense which is the WTS, I would consider it really a “badge of honor” to be disfellowshipped. It would show that someone is exercising their right to be a thinking and independent individual. Instead of denoting any kind of failure, it really just confirms a successful growth for the individual – a growth which is personal and even spiritual.
The WTS claims to be “progressive” (you know, moving ahead, light gets brighter). But daring to make the decision to stand up to them and become disfellowshipped, either through standing your ground or through sending an actual disassociation letter, I believe, builds character and shows an honest personal integrity.
Don’t fret over the perceived “stigma,” minimus. Instead of a stigma, it’s really something to be held up in high esteem as a “badge of honor.”
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Stagnant JW growth at international convention
by kneehighmiah inso at the international convention 235 were baptized.
the attendance was 34k.
that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.
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Apparently only about 36% of born-ins stay in the JWs.
‘The little one himself will become a mighty nation’ – ya, right, a nation where they’re risking everything to jump over the fence to get out.
The ‘modern-day Israelites’ (JWs) are marching around the modern city of Jericho seven times on this last day in the time of the end – but they’ve evidently™ been drinking beer all day, so by the seven-time marching day, they’re all just dizzy and pooped.
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If You Can Get Out Of The Jehovah's Witness Religion---DO IT!
by minimus ini realize some people feel they can't just leave the religion.
they have family, friends, position.. some elders mistakenly believe that they might be able to reform the cult from within.
the truth is, the religion is never really going to change.
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“Captain Obvious”: “Is it better for me to continue loosely affiliated, hoping she starts to research? Do I push the issue more? Or do I quit going altogether, lose my one remaining (good) JW friend . . .”
Unfortunately, this classic dilemma is really not so obvious as to what to do. There are different factors for either side of the coin, and the solution is as deeply personal for the individual as it is unique in relation to his own circumstances and goals. This is definitely one area where one needs to literally “sleep on it” and “follow their heart,” doing what really “feels” best for them.
Perhaps one night you will end up having a dream where you see yourself dressed up in the formal “Hotels.com Captain Obvious” suit (like on the commercials) and actually tell yourself the answer in a nonchalant manner. It could be the eureka moment you need.
Take care, and all the best.
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FROM FEET TO FINGERS: THE WATCHTOWER EVOLVES INTO JW.ORG
by steve2 inwith the official letter from the gb to all bodies of elders, a stylized jw.org banner can now be appended to kingdom hall signage.. what an auspicious year this will turn out to be for the organization!!.
among other outcomes, the "link" with the old, baggage-ridden "watchtower bible & tract society" recedes into the background.
furthermore, now you don't pretend to need feet trudging door-to-door - your worker is done at the press of a few directed fingers.
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“steve2”: “. . . the organisation is trying to shed its past and morph into something more clean-lined and aimed at the internet age . . .”
There will always be many “parts” to the Internet which will ensure that the WTS will never be able to shed all that ridiculous and sh^tty past of theirs; for example, sites such as “http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm,” “http://jwleaks.org,” “http://jwsurvey.org,” “http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk,” “http://www.jwfacts.com,” etc., etc.
“steve2”: “. . . I'd guess that at some stage the curious householder will widen the search at the touch of a few buttons. Uh-oh for the organization!”
Exactly! And whether or not people are in or out of the JWs, and whether or not people are strongly warned/told not to, people will nevertheless sneak some “widened” searches and “secret” perusals, because, of course, that’s just the way people are – especially in private.
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Just got off the elevator with Anthony Morris
by kneehighmiah inat the international convention here i just got off the elevator with anthony morris.
he was heading to the basement and i was heading up to administration.
i rode one floor down with him before i went up to my destination.
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“kneehighmiah”: “Typing this in the bathroom as I await his concluding discourse.”
Well, if Mr. Morris had farted badly while he was in the elevator with you (which I’m sure he did), then, my friend, you won’t need to wait and take in his “concluding discourse,” because you’ve already had it. His discourse would just be more of the same smell of stinking sh^t. Get out of there now, kneehighmiah! Looks like your nose has already had its fill for today.
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WT victims memorial day--from i o wight--UK
by bigmac inflowers were attached to the gates of the kingdom hall--ryde i o wight uk today in memory of keith playford, who lost his life aged 28 for want of a blood transfusion.
he was survived by 2 daughters.
although this kh was no way connected with him--it is the nearest to his neice--who placed the flowers in his memory.. .
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“BluesBrother”: “Should you send the pic to the local press?”
I would say that would be an excellent and most appropriate thing to do. There really should be at least some tidbits published in local “Life” sections and “Religion” sections of the newspapers, because by far the general population is unaware of this stuff going on right under their noses in their own communities.
Also, copies of both those photos should be sent to AAWA (Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses, at “http://aawa.co”), as I’m sure they could find some way to incorporate them into an item or two somewhere. Every little bit helps.